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#3989343 - 08/01/14 03:16 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: No Name]  
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Good Points.

I think comedy has a lot more leeway in distorting reality and exaggerating character traits to get a laugh. Humor is another relative concept. Larry the Cable Guy could be a genius of comedy to some, I guess.

But I can't explain Step Up!... that is beyond human comprehension. winkngrin

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#3989370 - 08/01/14 03:58 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: EAF331 MadDog]  
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Originally Posted By: EAF331 MadDog
For each Citizen Kane - how many hundreds of idiot movies was made at the same time? Take a look at the movies created in each decade - only a handful are remembered. You remember Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton, but what about the scores of other movies from then? They were forgettable, and have been forgotten.

Take a random year - like 1959 when Ben Hur was released and take a look at "notable movies released" - how many of them do have you heard of, or much less seen?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_in_film#Notable_films_released_in_1959

Of the Academy Award nominees for best movie in 1959 I've heard of (and see) two.


Exactly, and they have been making comic book hero movies since the 50's

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Originally Posted By: December
Originally Posted By: EAF331 MadDog
For each Citizen Kane - how many hundreds of idiot movies was made at the same time? Take a look at the movies created in each decade - only a handful are remembered. You remember Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton, but what about the scores of other movies from then? They were forgettable, and have been forgotten.

Take a random year - like 1959 when Ben Hur was released and take a look at "notable movies released" - how many of them do have you heard of, or much less seen?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_in_film#Notable_films_released_in_1959

Of the Academy Award nominees for best movie in 1959 I've heard of (and see) two.


Exactly, and they have been making comic book hero movies since the 50's



That's true but they weren't the massive box office successes they are today. Back then comic book films were relegated to B movie status. I think it was the success of "Superman" in 1978 that changed all of that.


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#3989607 - 08/02/14 04:28 AM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna
An unknown virus causes people to turn into Zombies. This works, as long as it is not explained too much.
This does not work for me. ever. Rabies, mutated slightly so the
deranged state lasts a bit longer, that I could buy. But they'd be
just normal people, on their way to a horrible demise.

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Really, the group noun for sharks is a "shiver"? Is that cuz they're too cool to school?


#3990047 - 08/03/14 02:20 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: No Name]  
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#3990161 - 08/03/14 06:54 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: No Name]  
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Originally Posted By: peppergomez
Which is why there need to be more directors like Nolan and the District 49/Elysium director, who at least make an effort to put one foot in visceral CGI action and one in actual ideas and characters who aren't laughably shallow.

But this comic book movie trend is tiresome, and it encourages #%&*$# everything, except things that go boom.

And my point is that I wonder if American's entertainment/escapist/popular art tastes are becoming increasingly juvenile. I think there's a good chance that, viewed en masse, they are. Junk food all the time.


And to one of your other points...no, of course it's not a binary either/or in terms of choices. I'll be seeing the new Mad Max movie, for sure. But hell, the ratios are janked up out of proportion in terms of what "the machine" feeds us. And people seem more than content to lap it up. Is that the future?


Well, Disney owns Marvel Studios...



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#3991064 - 08/05/14 02:03 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: No Name]  
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#3993254 - 08/09/14 08:28 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: EAF331 MadDog]  
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Originally Posted By: EAF331 MadDog
For each Citizen Kane - how many hundreds of idiot movies was made at the same time? Take a look at the movies created in each decade - only a handful are remembered. You remember Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton, but what about the scores of other movies from then? They were forgettable, and have been forgotten.

Take a random year - like 1959 when Ben Hur was released and take a look at "notable movies released" - how many of them do have you heard of, or much less seen?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_in_film#Notable_films_released_in_1959

Of the Academy Award nominees for best movie in 1959 I've heard of (and see) two.


I impressed myself there: I've seen quite a few of those. A whole bunch of them are pretty famous, mind, so it's not really surprising. biggrin Even the award winners that are listed there - Although I haven't seen them all its really only a couple I am unfamiliar with.

As for the comic book movies. I was never into comic books when I was a kid, save for Commando comics and then 2000AD. I've seen a bunch of them - I liked the Iron Man films - but I'm not that bothered either way. Mind you, its really just Super hero stuff I don't like so I'm probably a lousy person to comment. Dredd was my favourite movie last year, and I'll watch the Hellblazer TV show like a proper fanboi too...

I do get both points, though. Still, there are some great films out there getting made.

#3996088 - 08/15/14 05:13 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: No Name]  
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Originally Posted By: peppergomez
You ever wonder if the fact that so many adults in their 30s and 40s still look to comic book content as their primary source of entertainment is going result in an ever lowering bar of entertainment fare?

Adults who never seem to tire of comic book and star wars/star trek reboots makes me wonder if the tastes of current and future generations are going keep growing more and more juvenile. And then there's the cosplay crowd. Adults with a reverence for content that used to be the purview of ten year olds.

Are most American no longer outgrowing this sort of thing? Avatar being a perfect example of the fatuous. Unobtanium. Un. #%&*$#. Ob. Tanium. Spell it out a bit slower, and in bolder, harder to miss letters, Mr. Cameron. Please. No, really. Any high school writer worth his or her salt can do better than that. The Dark Knight is like 1 in 1,000 for being a pop culture comic book movie that attempted and accomplished more than that.

Would the tastes of most of today's audience even allow for a movie like Citizen Kane, Easy Rider, The Last Picture Show, Casablanca, etc. to be made? These were not sideshow art films, but major cinematic events in this country. Sure, there's non-American Christopher Nolan (the Alfred Hitchcock of our time?) who asks more of himself and of viewers. There used to be Joss Whedon, though he seems reluctant to move beyond his "oh, so clever and meta self aware" schtick, that's played out and a stylistic straightjacket. But then there's freaking JJ Abrams, and all his variant, who embraces brainlessness like a second skin.



Ugh. Grow the hell up, America.



(I feel like freaking Ignatius J. Reilly.)


Tell me about it! It is as if every film coming out is about superheroes, robots, or teenagers in dystopia!
hahaha



I got a good laugh out of this article at The Onion
http://www.theonion.com/articles/marvel-reimagines-green-goblin-as-lefthanded,36507/


Marvel Reimagines Green Goblin As Left-Handed
News in Brief Entertainment Comics ISSUE 5029 Jul 21, 2014
NEW YORKIn a month that has already seen several key changes to popular comic book characters, publisher Marvel Comics revealed Monday that a new version of Spider-Man archenemy the Green Goblin would be left-handed. We felt it was time for Marvel to give the Spider-Man series an exciting new perspective, and were confident readers are going to agree when they catch sight of obsessive Oscorp researcher Dr. Charles Lefty Langkowski, Marvel chief creative officer Joe Quesada said of the change, which will come in an issue that follows the left-handed scientist, who accidentally spills a biogenic serum from his clumsy right hand and subsequently transforms into the unhinged, Halloween-themed supervillain. From throwing his signature arsenal of Pumpkin Bombs with his left hand rather than his right, to leaning in the opposite direction while riding the Goblin Glide, its a fresh, new path forward for the character, and everyone at Marvel is excited for fans to follow the Sinister Southpaws reign of terror. Reactions to the announcement have reportedly been mixed, with a number of readers praising the introduction of a more relatable figure, while others expressed frustration that the Marvel Universe still lacked an ambidextrous character.


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#3996089 - 08/15/14 05:15 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: No Name]  
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That Onion article is great!!

Yeah, the teenagers in a future dystopia genre is really grating on my nerves and another film of that genre comes out today in theatres! I hope it bombs.


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#3996129 - 08/15/14 06:33 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: No Name]  
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No kidding! Geez, we watched that movie Divergent the other night. Then we saw the trailer for The Giver.
Can we just watch Equilibrium? We already own it, and it's better than these super-kid movies.
I don't argue though, my wife read the Hunger Games, Divergent and shimmery vampire books, so we'll see them all.
It's a hell of a lot better than getting dragged to see Titanic. It's chick scifi, but at least it's scifi.


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#3996156 - 08/15/14 07:05 PM Re: Comic book movies forever? [Re: No Name]  
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

It's a hell of a lot better than getting dragged to see Titanic. It's chick scifi, but at least it's scifi.



Why would you get dragged to see a film that was in theaters 17 years ago??

And no, Titanic was worlds better than any of the Twilight flicks. *shudder*



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Because 17 years ago I got dragged to see it.


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I think Jedi just pulled a Drax and read things too literally. smile


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