I was looking at the manual for the f15 module for DCS world and it is quite a bit shorter than that of the A10. I was wondering why the f15 isn't modeled to the same extent as the a10?

Just a different level of fidelity. The A-10C has all the bells and whistles of the professional flight model, along with fully modeled systems and a clickable cockpit.

The F-15C is a lot cheaper, and as of right now only has a professional flight model without clickable pit and advanced systems modeling, although it might just be in the future

Is the f15 module not considered finished yet?

It's finished for what it is. $10 vs $50.

That's somewhat disappointing. Is the DCS A10C the most realistic flight combat sim there is?

The F-15 once was a Flaming Cliffs 3 aircraft. Compared to DCS level aircraft (Ka-50, A-10C, P-51, Huey, Mi-8) the FC3 aircraft are much simpler with regards to the simulated depth of their various systems and flight models.

The F-15 recently received a flight model upgrade, bringing in to a DCS level in that regard, the avionics/weapons/radar systems are still FC3 level though.

A true DCS version of the F-15 is still a long way off.

Pretty much, yes. Depends what you're into, though. The Ka-50, UH-1 Mi-8 and P-51D are all done to the same level of fidelity as the A-10C, but your interest will obviously depend on whether or not you like helicopters and WWII aircraft.

As other posters have commented, there are other A-10C quality aircraft in the pipeline, but many of them are still a long way off.

The Ka-50, UH-1H, Mi-8, and the P-51D modules are pretty darn good as well.

No.

DCS World is.

WC

Dont for get the MiG-21, Hawk, and C-101 are getting close to dropping. The F/A-18C is in active development through ED, and others are slated for later on... There is a lot going on... Would love to see the F-15C get A-10C level love though...

ED collect much more information about the A-10C with their contract with US Army (i think) of building an A-10C simulator to help the pilots to make the step from A-10A to A-10C.

At the end of their contract (as far as i know) ED got the permission to build a public A-10C simulator --> so we have a fantastic simulated A-10C.

Just to nitpick, there is no DCS: F15C and it's all in the name actually.
DCS: A-10C is "DCS level" as prefix indicates.
F-15C: DCS Flaming Cliffs, is not.

(still they named FC3 as "DCS: Flaming Cliffs 3" which in my adolf-opinion was wrong)


/Marches off to the kitchen like Mr Fawlty but without head bandage

Well to nitpick your nitpick the F-15C is a PFM/SSM Module There is no real "DCS level" we have fancy new terms

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=122801

Also, the F-15C is a pure AA platform. It has a gun and 3 available missile types with 2 primary radar modes and a couple of lesser ones. There's really not as much to write about as the A-10C's systems which cover a lot more weapons and modes.

That's not to say the F-15C is easier to learn per se, it's just that more of it is about tactics and practice than book learnin'.



The Jedi Master

The term DCS used to be synonymous with "PFM/ASM" since every single DCS vehicle module matched that description. Public opinion hasn't really caught up to the dictionary edit. Marketing isn't exactly falling over itself with a campaign to clarify that "DCS doesn't necessarily mean it's as advanced as you have been accustomed to it meaning."

I'm not wholly a fan of the SFM-AFM-PFM-EFM monikers because it's delineation by method and not result. PFM tends to be better than AFM but there's nothing guaranteeing that. It also seems to want to have the customer consider that all members of each category are equally good. A car hand-assembled by engineering experts and slave labor are both "hand-crafted" but probably not equal quality. I'm not saying these labels are bad, just that it should be a tool for quick identification of intent and not proof of quality standing by itself. I wouldn't buy a Lexus "because Lexus makes good cars" but instead "because this is a good car made by Lexus."

A lot of what makes the F-15 its character is the systems modeling. The whole experience is just as dependent on radar systems as it is on how the air flows over the wings.

Well the terms are in their infancy really, and the changes were based on how products are being sold now, including 3rd party... saying their are DCS quality doesnt mean they are exactly the same as the A-10C. Same with FMs, you have different stages of advanced FMs now, they needed better descriptors, I agree the product pages need to reference these terms as well... it will help them catch on.

As for guarantee... if another sim company says they are putting out an AFM, there is no guarantee that their AFM matches anyone elses... so there is no guarantees anywhere is there. ED describes the differences in the terms, there is a guarantee that the things they describe there are used to create those FMs. That should be enough I think.

I agree... the F-15C wont be as good as it can be till it gets the ASM as well... but the PFM is a pretty decent jump from where it was.

quick question is the DCS-F15 the same as the F15 included in FC3?

Yes it is.

thank you!