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#3977117 - 07/06/14 01:46 AM Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river  
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#3977126 - 07/06/14 03:12 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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I build aircraft seats for a living, most of which go to Boeing. Seeing this makes me wonder what I'd feel like if that much work was WASTED.

Ouch.


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#3977136 - 07/06/14 04:43 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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Somewhere there is an insurance agent crying....


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#3977138 - 07/06/14 05:21 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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It doesn't get much more PNW than those pictures. New trout and salmon habitat, thanks to the good folks at Boeing.

#3977192 - 07/06/14 12:37 PM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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#3977198 - 07/06/14 12:51 PM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Snap]  
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Originally Posted By: Snapdad2112
It doesn't get much more PNW than those pictures. New trout and salmon habitat, thanks to the good folks at Boeing.

LOL! If it were their fault, Boeing, then that would certainly be a true statement. However, I suspect it wasn't their doing on the derailment so they won't be at fault for anything. I do indeed agree that somewhere an insurance agent is crying as well.


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#3977295 - 07/06/14 07:32 PM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: vocatx]  
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Originally Posted By: vocatx
Somewhere there is an insurance agent crying....


.... and somewhere there is an Airbus VP " hahaha hahaha hahaha "

#3977299 - 07/06/14 08:04 PM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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They're gonna try to salvage the bodies and fix them up.

#3977353 - 07/06/14 11:09 PM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: EAF331 MadDog]  
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Originally Posted By: EAF331 MadDog
They're gonna try to salvage the bodies and fix them up.



I'm sorry, but even knowing how extensive airframe inspections are, I wouldn't want to fly in a plane that had rolled down the side of a mountain before it was completed.


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#3977361 - 07/07/14 12:05 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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Yeah that sounds like just as much work as just starting over by the time they fix them. I don't know anything about it but like vocatx I think that would make most folks nervous knowing that they're riding in a bird that first fell down a cliff into a river.


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#3977364 - 07/07/14 12:13 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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How would they know?


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#3977374 - 07/07/14 01:20 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted By: KraziKanuK
How would they know?

Good point. They wouldn't know. However those fuselages passing inspection is another matter.


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#3977379 - 07/07/14 01:35 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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Though they had completely adapted to land in their adult forms, each Spring they returned to the waters to lay their eggs in the reeds by the riverbank.


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Originally Posted By: Dart
Though they had completely adapted to land in their adult forms, each Spring they returned to the waters to lay their eggs in the reeds by the riverbank.


LOL, that was a good one. One of the best Cutthroat Trout Rivers in the US.

They will need to melt those hulls down and start from scratch after that. Just watching
the video you could one had broken open.


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#3977412 - 07/07/14 05:32 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: vocatx]  
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Originally Posted By: vocatx
Originally Posted By: EAF331 MadDog
They're gonna try to salvage the bodies and fix them up.



I'm sorry, but even knowing how extensive airframe inspections are, I wouldn't want to fly in a plane that had rolled down the side of a mountain before it was completed.


They are Boeing. I would.



#3977484 - 07/07/14 12:31 PM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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I'd worry more about the two that are sitting in the water. The one that stayed dry shouldn't be a problem.

That closest one that cracked open, though...



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#3977492 - 07/07/14 12:45 PM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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#3977815 - 07/07/14 11:52 PM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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#3977841 - 07/08/14 12:45 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: Chaz]  
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Ok I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and go on record stating that while it's still early in the investigation, I'm fairly certain this was not pilot error.







LOL!

I'll bet Boeing will have a few choice things to say about this in private w railroad owners managers...

Yes Boeing makes great airframes, and its experience w B17's and B-29's likely paved the road for the B-52, B-707 and 747... but this is not WW2 desperate times against NAZI invaders, where all humans onboard are voluteers pledging their lives to the cause. The 737 airframes that fell off, will no doubt be scrapped...the liability in today's legal environment is WAY too high. My guess is each damaged airframe may cost something like 7-12 million USD each. But were one of those airframes to be involved in a future crash where the airframe was a possible suspect, Boeing could be open to lawsuits costing them over a billion dollars.

No, lawyers won't even be consulted, the accountants will simply write them off for scrap. Railway insurance coverage will cover the costs. Most likely they will give Boeing free shipping for 3 years or something, as the railway won't have the cash to pay out.

At least that's my guess anyway!


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#3977855 - 07/08/14 01:33 AM Re: Train derails in Montana, Boeing fuselages in the river [Re: vocatx]  
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Originally Posted By: vocatx
Originally Posted By: EAF331 MadDog
They're gonna try to salvage the bodies and fix them up.

I'm sorry, but even knowing how extensive airframe inspections are, I wouldn't want to fly in a plane that had rolled down the side of a mountain before it was completed.


Not quite a mountain side accident.... back in the day I flew the Saab 340. Had the pleasure of flying N366PX. This aircraft rolled into a ditch at the Memphis Intl Airport. The aircraft was not chalked after parking. The parking brake is hydraulic powered so overnight, pressure eventually bled out and it rolled away.

A new wing spar among other repairs and she was deemed airworthy. Naturally, the aircraft was nicknamed the "ditch b!tch". She always flew a little crooked since...... Apparently, now it's flying for an airline in Honduras.




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