I will concede that there are a lot of arcade things noticed in the demo, that's the way of the day I guess... sure I would really love a SWAT 5 or a tactical R6 game but those are history IMO

BUT... any game can still be played in a tactical way, and that is what I'm looking forward too... I play BF4 with Tactical Gamer only, hardcore settings and server rules limiting snipers, and gentlemen rules for game play, no bunny hopping, no using rockets in infantry unless a last resort, no flying in and jumping out of a perfectly good aircraft... and the game play is awesome... so it's not just the game(s) that can be tactical or not, but more so the player base.

Well, people said the same about space combat sims and guess what, Star Citizen already received so far more than $46 Million USD and Elite Dangerous more than £1.2 Million GBP and these games weren't even released yet so were those same people right? Obviously a HUGE and ROUND NO!

And I'm sure that if there was a good tactical shooter that it would also be a great success. The problem is IMO mainly because of two reasons:
1- There isn't any MODERN and GOOD tactical games nowadays! The latest and most modern tactical game that was released was that crap called Takedown:Red Sabre. Most (realistic game) devs seem to believe that since there isn't many realistic games nowadays that if they release one even in an unfinished and crappy state that people will jump in and purchase it - Well they couldn't be more wrong - Most people won't buy crappy games being it realistic or arcadish, period!
2- Most game companies seem to be run by suits that hardly know what a PC game is. They look into charts and "Excel spreadsheets" and the only thing they see is that arcade games take less time and money to develop with possibly more customers and thus a possibly bigger profit! And this is all that companies seem to care about nowadays, making the most profitable product possible without caring about quality and are not interested in making something that they could be known and renown about (as opposed to 15 years or more ago).

And BTW, if tactical shooters weren't profitable even nowadays, why do game developers such as UbiSoft use the name/brand of well known and realistic tactical shooters for their games?? If this was the truth (tactical shooters don't have any chance of profits nowadays) I'm sure that UbiSoft wouldn't have the need to use the Rainbow 6 brand and would invent other name.






Well in my end, I have less and less time to play games nowadays so when I have the rather rare opportunity to play games, I want to make every second count and I want to spend it playing GOOD (and realistic) games so I won't waste a single second playing arcadish crap.

Well, Ubisoft uses the Rainbow Six name but they're mostly capitalizing on the Vegas success, not on the stuff that was done before and which was much less successfull AFAIK.

As for the suits in companies, my impression is that while they all think "arcade" games make more money and are easier to make, the number one thing that drives their decisions are a "we too" kind of attitude. COD makes money so we must copy COD. GTA makes money so we must copy GTA. DayZ makes money so...

Or even better. Assassin's Creed makes money for Ubisoft, so Ubisoft wants to make all games like Assassin's Creed

If that's the case, why using Rainbow 6 name/brand for Vegas series?

So if it's true that current Rainbow 6 games capitalize on the Vegas success like you say than it's also true that Vegas capitalized on the success of previous (and more realistic) Rainbow 6 games.




For the rest of the post I must say that I completely agree.

Well, why NOT use it? It was not a bad name/brand, and of course it was useful to cater to the guys playing the brand until then. Moreover, why not use a brand instead of NO BRAND?

I'm just saying that nowadays most people think of Vegas when they hear about Rainbow Six.

Of course, I'm in the old school bandwagon

I always wonder why they reuse a name just to totally change the gameplay.

"Did you like Myst? Well now there's new Call of Duty: Myst! Fight exciting MP battles with awesome perks across the land of Myst, blowing up those books and RPGing that monorail system as you go!"




The Jedi Master