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#3967507 - 06/13/14 10:00 PM Bears and Raptors  
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Saw this the other day. Sorry for the high-rez, it's my desktop now. This encounter happened 50 NM off California's coast last Wednesday, June 4th, 2014.






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#3967512 - 06/13/14 10:07 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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The tail gun seems so quaint.

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#3967529 - 06/13/14 10:40 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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AK tail code?.....must have followed it from Alaska to California.

#3967531 - 06/13/14 10:42 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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I understand it is not war time. I understand it's easier to get from Elmendorf with tanks but it sort of defeats the purpose of the plane....unless of course the idea is to keep spending my bucks.


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#3967541 - 06/13/14 11:17 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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From CNN
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...On June 4, according to U.S. defense officials, four long-range Russian Tu-95 Bear-H bombers, accompanied by an aerial refueling tanker, flew into the U.S. Air Defense Identification Zone, an area extending 200 miles from the North American coast, off Alaska, where they were intercepted by U.S. F-22 fighter jets.
Two of the Russian bombers peeled off and headed west, while the other two flew south and were identified by U.S. F-15 fighters within 50 miles of the California coast.

#3967542 - 06/13/14 11:22 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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Great pic!


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#3967546 - 06/13/14 11:37 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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#3967580 - 06/14/14 01:57 AM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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#3967598 - 06/14/14 05:02 AM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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Why not...Crimea was so easy, guess they want Kalifornia now.
One Bear, should do it, I heard they don't have guns there... biggrin
Was 'Homeland Security' hot on this?...lol...
50 miles off the coast?
Wonder what the administration would do if a carrier group showed up that close?
Do we sail that close to Russia?
I seriously don't know.

About the fuel....from what I've heard, the F-22 gets pretty good mileage at low speed wink considering, how about 'super cruise'......is it cheaper than the F-15's?

If they were worried about fuel, they could have used F-16's.
Or put OG in the air!

I do know that Alaska is only 2.5 miles away from Russia.
You could almost fire a rifle that far.....lol.

We used to get along, but this has never been done before AFAIK.

Seriously though, nice photo.....but this is, 'Odd'.

A 'bomber'?!!
Wonder what he was carrying.......illegals? wink







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#3967625 - 06/14/14 09:43 AM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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#3967663 - 06/14/14 11:33 AM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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Maybe giving the old birds one last hurrah before they fall apart.
Speaking of fuel, two full loads per Bear is quite a splurge for
such a pointless embarrassment. Would have made more sense to just
send them over to an ancient aircraft airshow. Russia seems to be
plummeting into an oblivion of cluelessness.

#3967706 - 06/14/14 01:32 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: PV1]  
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Originally Posted By: PV1
... Would have made more sense to just
send them over to an ancient aircraft airshow...


I know, right? If Russia wants to show some muscle, send that stuff over for an airshow. Even with the current political situation, we'ld love to see that hardware up close for the pure love of aviation. Hell, they sent brand new highly classified MiG-29's to an England airshow in the mid '80s. Putin is a freak, but I would welcome some Russian pilots for a friendly visit.


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#3967745 - 06/14/14 03:05 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Murphy]  
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Originally Posted By: Murphy
Why not...Crimea was so easy, guess they want Kalifornia now.

They can have it as far as I'm concerned.


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#3967776 - 06/14/14 04:37 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: PV1]  
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Originally Posted By: PV1
Maybe giving the old birds one last hurrah before they fall apart.
Speaking of fuel, two full loads per Bear is quite a splurge for
such a pointless embarrassment. Would have made more sense to just
send them over to an ancient aircraft airshow. Russia seems to be
plummeting into an oblivion of cluelessness.


Those Bears are still pretty militarily relevant, same as the B-52, since if it were for real they'd be launching cruise missiles from far beyond the range of interception.

#3967780 - 06/14/14 04:48 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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look like a remembering era at an air show... the bear is soooooo old gen! Like if a Su33 intercepted a B29! LOL


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#3967810 - 06/14/14 06:11 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Brun]  
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Originally Posted By: Brun
The tail gun seems so quaint.


The primary ammunition type is chaff as far as I can tell. It is still capable of loading HE, but I don't think it has been used that way in a long time.

#3967848 - 06/14/14 07:56 PM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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What, the F22 pilot didn't pass out due to oxygen deprivation? Progress!


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#3967979 - 06/15/14 02:08 AM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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Like if a Su33 intercepted a B29! LOL


Actually the B-52 and TU-95 are very similar in a lot of capabilities. The Tu-95 is only about 50 knots slower at max speed, has a slightly lower service ceiling, and has almost identical wing loading. The B-52 can carry a lot more conventional ordnance (double basically), but the Tu-95 is very capable of carrying a whole bunch of either ship killer cruise missiles or nuclear cruise missiles. Being within 50 miles of our shore when they were intercepted is about 200 miles too close for even the shortest range cruise missiles it can carry.

Sure it looks old fashioned as a prop job, but it will hum along at .80 mach all day long.

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#3967984 - 06/15/14 02:42 AM Re: Bears and Raptors [Re: Farcaster]  
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I noticed a couple peeled off. I wonder if this guy had mechanical problems, and asked to fly close, to shorten the trip back home? Would that be feasible?

Cause I sure can't figure out the purpose in flying that close to our coastline, with a "bomber"!....that can, and does, carry a 'load' of nukes.... wink ....we'd have a lot of our citizens, depending on the 'sanity' of that pilot wink .
Cause you couldn't stop him, at that range......he could just drop a load, bye bye West Coast.

I'm betting he had clearance, and mechanical trouble.....just a guess.


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