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#3964873 - 06/09/14 05:21 AM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart ***** [Re: Olham]  
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The original plan was to make people do 5 hours in two seaters, so an extra couple of missions to get your approval after 3 hours doesn't seem too bad. I figure it's just extra incentive NOT to get killed and have to start again in the two-seaters.

As for me, I plan to stay in my two-seater (Stutter) for the duration. I like having a second machine gun covering my back!!

#3964887 - 06/09/14 07:32 AM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Yes... I'll be moving into a Strutter. I didn't realize they were 2 seaters until I started testing to see which plane I wanted to move into. :X Beautiful aircraft, especially against annoying Eindeckers.

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#3964893 - 06/09/14 08:04 AM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Change to the web survey is to add in RNAS ranks (sorry, forgot about that). The survey ranks start at Petty Officer but the ranks in WOFF do not. So you can take your pick especially as you get no points for promotions.

Added in two pilots - cptroyce and Rover27. The list is now:

What is your WOFF id?

[ ] ArisFuser
[ ] Beanie
[ ] Carrick58
[ ] CatKnight
[ ] cptroyce
[ ] JFM
[ ] Jim Attrill
[ ] Kaische
[ ] Leaf85
[ ] lederhosen
[ ] Maeran
[ ] MFair
[ ] MrDirt
[ ] Olham
[ ] Raf_Louvert
[ ] Rick_Rawlings
[ ] Rover27
[ ] samba_liten
[ ] Shiloh
[ ] theultimat
[ ] Other:

To keep track of changes this is now version 1.0 9th June 2104

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#3964910 - 06/09/14 09:51 AM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Seems you missed the post asking to add me. I will be entering tomorrow. Thanks in advance smile2


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#3964914 - 06/09/14 10:06 AM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Jim and all: the ranks we choose, must be available in WOFF - pls use only those in WOFF.
We want to see, when we get promoted, and so the RNAS flyers (who have less ranks available)
must start with the lowest rank WOFF offers for them.


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#3964951 - 06/09/14 01:02 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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This campaign is interesting. Especially the 2 seater part. Weighing mission against survival. I started a new pilot and the first mission was railyard bombing. I can see the Fokker's coming, I know we will be attacked. Survival means turning and getting home quick. In reality, running would surely mean getting court martialed back at base, if the flight survives and your observer keeps his mouth shut. As it was, the flight leader kept to the mission, so I followed, we plastered the rail yard and me and my observer with fuel lines shot out just made it back over the lines wounded. Only one other out of 5 made it back. I can fly again June 14th!


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#3964960 - 06/09/14 01:19 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: MFair]  
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Originally Posted By: MFair
This campaign is interesting. Especially the 2 seater part. Weighing mission against survival. I started a new pilot and the first mission was railyard bombing. I can see the Fokker's coming, I know we will be attacked. Survival means turning and getting home quick. In reality, running would surely mean getting court martialed back at base, if the flight survives and your observer keeps his mouth shut. As it was, the flight leader kept to the mission, so I followed, we plastered the rail yard and me and my observer with fuel lines shot out just made it back over the lines wounded. Only one other out of 5 made it back. I can fly again June 14th!



Mfair, I like your brief report..Concise, to the point, and with appropriate personal analysis. Good show. I must learn to apply same.


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#3964961 - 06/09/14 01:19 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Yeah, it is a hard world in WOFF!


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#3964986 - 06/09/14 02:18 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: 77_Scout]  
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Originally Posted By: 77_Scout
The original plan was to make people do 5 hours in two seaters, so an extra couple of missions to get your approval after 3 hours doesn't seem too bad. I figure it's just extra incentive NOT to get killed and have to start again in the two-seaters.

As for me, I plan to stay in my two-seater (Stutter) for the duration. I like having a second machine gun covering my back!!

Yeah, the Strutter is a great plane. I got kills as the pilot in it against Halberstadts! Now something like the BE2? I wouldn't wish a whole career in that on anyone! biggrin

#3964994 - 06/09/14 02:32 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Rick_Rawlings]  
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Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Originally Posted By: 77_Scout
The original plan was to make people do 5 hours in two seaters, so an extra couple of missions to get your approval after 3 hours doesn't seem too bad. I figure it's just extra incentive NOT to get killed and have to start again in the two-seaters.

As for me, I plan to stay in my two-seater (Stutter) for the duration. I like having a second machine gun covering my back!!

Yeah, the Strutter is a great plane. I got kills as the pilot in it against Halberstadts! Now something like the BE2? I wouldn't wish a whole career in that on anyone! biggrin


I have read of the "suicide" missions flown by recon aircraft in the early years but once you do it in WOFF you realize just how hard it was! Getting 3 hours, without being a total coward, is hard enough. I cannot imagine someone living very long in some of these craft.


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#3964997 - 06/09/14 02:41 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Petty officer RNAS rank removed.

Can I get a list of all decorations given in WOFF? To all nationalities.

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#3965015 - 06/09/14 03:15 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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My first pilot has fallen.

For my art obs job with a single Roland C.II, I had 3 escorting Eindeckers, one even flown
by Manfred von Richthofen - but when our course came close to our field again after the
climbing phase, they drove off - to land, as I should realise quite soon.
And we hadn't even been to the front sector.

Now I found myself alone with 2 Nieuports approaching.
I went into a steady dive back to our field, where I found my 3 escorts circling for the landing -
which meant, that they couldn't help me anymore.
While my gunner didn't achieve much (despite me flying quite steady), the 2 Nupes shot us up,
until my craft caught fire and crashed.
And that was the end of Andreas Harms.

My next pilot, Bernhard Harms, will definitely NOT fly in a hotspot zone again -
I think the Alsace should just be fine.






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#3965096 - 06/09/14 05:28 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: JimAttrill]  
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Thank you will enter report on Wednesday.


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#3965118 - 06/09/14 06:07 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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right WOFF is a dangerous place to fly. Olham , sorry to hear about ur pilot.

#3965140 - 06/09/14 07:01 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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9th June 1916. I set off with a flight of 5 FE2b's. I don't know what aircraft we were set upon by as I never saw them. I eventually dived right down to the ground and crash landed in a field (no fences). So I was a 'forced down' I suppose. 3 crews were dead and the other severely wounded. Apparently I had shot down an aircraft though I can't say I saw it. So I put in a claim form giving as a witness the one other surviving pilot. And so far I only have .8 hours flying time! At this rate I'll be lucky to last to Wednesday ...

This seems a bit low. Does 'air start' cut down your hours? I tend to do that because the beginnings of a sortie are quite boring.


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#3965143 - 06/09/14 07:06 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Olham, just as a quick tip, I find flying steady does not necessarily contribute to the likelihood of your gunner actually opening up. I was never able to predict when he was going to shoot so I just flew as unpredictably as I could and hoped for the best. At least they had a hard time hitting me!

#3965146 - 06/09/14 07:14 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Yeah, I did that of course, once I saw he is shooting like on a fairground.
But the Nieuport were faster than the Roland, and without my escort I could
not get away from them anymore.


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#3965147 - 06/09/14 07:15 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Gents, the graphic chart will take a bit longer to work out the first time -
the calculation sheet is still not doing the right things. Maybe tomorrow...


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#3965148 - 06/09/14 07:16 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: JimAttrill]  
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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Does 'air start' cut down your hours? I tend to do that because the beginnings of a sortie are quite boring.


Well I hope it does, it would be unfair for those of us who fly the whole mission to have the same flying hours. winkngrin


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#3965154 - 06/09/14 07:25 PM Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham
Gents, the graphic chart will take a bit longer to work out the first time -
the calculation sheet is still not doing the right things. Maybe tomorrow...


No problem Olham, at all, take your time,...and by the way, THANKS for all this.

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