#3964292 - 06/07/14 06:44 PM
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June 2014 Update
We would first like to apologize for the long delay in projects updates. Since the last update from Luthier, there have been some significant changes in how this project will be developed and managed. No longer will RRG be developing this project and Luthier has ceased his involvement in the project. Eagle Dynamics though will be continuing its development and honor all Kickstarter backer commitments. There is nothing more we can say about this change and it is not open for discussion.
We will be restructuring the DCS WWII: Europe 1944 forums to reflect this.
DCS WWII: Europe 1944 is still planned as a single-package option, or users can purchase individual components to integrate into DCS World.
Myself and Groove plan to provide monthly updates.
As a basic outline, here are our current development intentions:
August 2014 – Fw 190 D-9 Dora October 2014 - BF-109K December 2014- Spitfire IX March 2015 - P-47D-28 May 2015 - Normandy Map with period AI units Other features like the Me.262A-1 and AI-only B-17G are also in development we but do not have a delivery data estimate at this time until these other features are further along.
In the meantime, Groove and our moderator SiThSpAwN are working to make sure that all backers, based on their level of backing, receive their entitlements.
We fully realize that you probably have many unanswered questions. We are in the process of answering those internally first, and once we do, we will update you.
In this update, we can share some updated images of the Fw 190 D-9 and Bf-109K cockpits. In future updates, Yoyo and other members of the development team will provide greater details about the various features.
Thanks, Matt http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2085212#post2085212
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#3964300 - 06/07/14 06:54 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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Holy cow... Luthier better change planet after this...
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#3964303 - 06/07/14 07:00 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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hi reputation was iffy before this (with the clod debacle) ... now would anyone believe him
Dont think of it as being vastly outnumbered ... but just having a large target selection.
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#3964311 - 06/07/14 07:13 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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shouldn't it be the P47-D30 btw?
I'm a crappy pilot, but one hell of a shot.
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#3964329 - 06/07/14 08:25 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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I'd be a lot happier if this included an option for a kickstarter refund. I'm not yet sure if I'd exercise that option or not, but I think it's a fair request.
At this point, the main issue I have is that they simply didn't give enough details into why this happened. I can understand Luither leaving, as if nothing else that's just one person, and people get burned out, go to different opportunists, etc. An entire team leaving however, is not something that "just happens." I'd say a few more details are warrented at the very least.
But, I'm sure the rest of the forumsphere will enjoy speculating at wild about what happened. Have fun with that wags!
PS: "There is nothing more we can say about this change and it is not open for discussionn." Heh, that's cute. You must be new to the internet...
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#3964335 - 06/07/14 08:32 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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This is just pants. I did not kickstart this as I had reservations about a standalone ad on by said party.
They should abandon the stand alone fiasco and just release individual planes to be integrated into world and edge.
Its all dodgy here and the fact they are not telling us means something went well sour somewhere.
Typical.
Maybe will will have BS3 upgrade to pay for the extra development.
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#3964336 - 06/07/14 08:32 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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A interesting update, wags update them..... Because there are some shared resources between projects (like cockpit systems programming), there will be some impact to our other projects. However, because much of the former RRG team is now employed by Eagle Dynamics, the impact on other Eagle projects will be minimal.
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#3964339 - 06/07/14 08:33 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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I'd be a lot happier if this included an option for a kickstarter refund. I'm not yet sure if I'd exercise that option or not, but I think it's a fair request.
At this point, the main issue I have is that they simply didn't give enough details into why this happened. I can understand Luither leaving, as if nothing else that's just one person, and people get burned out, go to different opportunists, etc. An entire team leaving however, is not something that "just happens." I'd say a few more details are warrented at the very least.
But, I'm sure the rest of the forumsphere will enjoy speculating at wild about what happened. Have fun with that wags!
PS: "There is nothing more we can say about this change and it is not open for discussionn." Heh, that's cute. You must be new to the internet... If you have access, you should make sure the announcement hasnt been updated at all as far as how resources are being handled. *sniped*
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#3964341 - 06/07/14 08:33 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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shouldn't it be the P47-D30 btw? I see it. 2015, first half. March. Refund, I'm afraid will not be possible as I'm not sure ED has access to the kickstarter funds... also, just because they picked up the bone this doesn't make them financially responsible for other people mistakes. Luthier MIGHT be able to... but he's learning spanish somewhere else, so...
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"Himmiherrgottksakramentzefixhallelujah!" Para_Bellum
"It takes forever +/- 2 weeks for the A-10 to get anywhere significant..." Ice
"Ha! If it gets him on the deck its a start!" MigBuster
"What people like and what critics praise are rarely the same thing. 'Critic' is just another one of those unnecessary, overpaid, parasitic jobs that the human race has churned out so that clever slackers won't have to actually get a real job and possibly soil their hands." Sauron
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#3964350 - 06/07/14 08:52 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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Ohh boy, ohh boy. DCS is in for rough times and even more delays.
If anything, the brakes seems to be off now on one of the major third party projects (which is now no longer a third party one)
I'm a crappy pilot, but one hell of a shot.
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#3964353 - 06/07/14 08:54 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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But, I'm sure the rest of the forumsphere will enjoy speculating at wild about what happened. Have fun with that wags!
You already did some of that speculating yourself, though. PS: "There is nothing more we can say about this change and it is not open for discussionn." Heh, that's cute. You must be new to the internet... Hint: we cannot commend further at this time, thus there is no point in discussing it on our forums. You can discuss freely on other forums though, quite obviously. They should abandon the stand alone fiasco and just release individual planes to be integrated into world and edge.
I invite you to re-read the announcement. Also, integrate it into EDGE? RRG's project was using EDGE already, and EDGE is not relevant to aircraft modules.
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#3964354 - 06/07/14 08:55 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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Yep. If they really incorporated the RRG team, as Wags put it, any delay should be minimal.
For sure I'm going to change my 4 selectable planes... no more 262, I'll trade it with the Dora...
"Himmiherrgottksakramentzefixhallelujah!" Para_Bellum
"It takes forever +/- 2 weeks for the A-10 to get anywhere significant..." Ice
"Ha! If it gets him on the deck its a start!" MigBuster
"What people like and what critics praise are rarely the same thing. 'Critic' is just another one of those unnecessary, overpaid, parasitic jobs that the human race has churned out so that clever slackers won't have to actually get a real job and possibly soil their hands." Sauron
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#3964364 - 06/07/14 09:11 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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I invite you to re-read the announcement. So what does "single-package option" exactly mean. Are you still doing the DCS ww2 standalone sim ?
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#3964366 - 06/07/14 09:20 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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I invite you to re-read the announcement. So what does "single-package option" exactly mean. Are you still doing the DCS ww2 standalone sim ? The original plan called for a seperate DCS WWII install, or you had the option to just install all the "pieces" into DCS World.
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#3964367 - 06/07/14 09:24 PM
Re: Luthier out. ED is in.
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I invite you to re-read the announcement. So what does "single-package option" exactly mean. Are you still doing the DCS ww2 standalone sim ? From the OP in this thread: "DCS WWII: Europe 1944 is still planned as a single-package option, or users can purchase individual components to integrate into DCS World."
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#3964372 - 06/07/14 09:37 PM
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I think its unfortunate that another year minimum has been tacked on to this project
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#3964389 - 06/07/14 10:24 PM
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This is the Updated Article: June 2014 Update
We would first like to apologize for the long delay in projects updates. Since the last update from Luthier, there have been some significant changes in how this project will be developed and managed. No longer will RRG be developing this project and Luthier has ceased his involvement in the project. Eagle Dynamics though will be continuing its development and honor all Kickstarter backer commitments. There is nothing more we can say about this change and it is not open for discussion.
Because there are some shared resources between projects (like cockpit systems programming), there will be some impact to our other projects. However, because much of the former RRG team is now employed by Eagle Dynamics, the impact on other Eagle projects will be minimal.
We will be restructuring the DCS WWII: Europe 1944 forums to reflect this.
DCS WWII: Europe 1944 is still planned as a single-package option, or users can purchase individual components to integrate into DCS World.
Myself and Groove plan to provide monthly updates.
As a basic outline, here are our current development intentions:
August 2014 – Fw 190 D-9 Dora October 2014 - BF-109K December 2014- Spitfire IX March 2015 - P-47D-30 May 2015 - Normandy Map with period AI units Other features like the Me.262A-1 and AI-only B-17G are also in development we but do not have a delivery data estimate at this time until these other features are further along.
In the meantime, Groove and our moderator SiThSpAwN are working to make sure that all backers, based on their level of backing, receive their entitlements.
We fully realize that you probably have many unanswered questions. We are in the process of answering those internally first, and once we do, we will update you.
In this update, we can share some updated images of the Fw 190 D-9 and Bf-109K cockpits. In future updates, Yoyo and other members of the development team will provide greater details about the various features.
Thanks, Matt
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