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#3963953 - 06/06/14 08:50 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules ***** [Re: Olham]  
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Corsaire, I wanted the promotions to be visible, as another success besides of victories.
Of course, like most rules, it also has it's downsides.

Scout, 2-seater time was 5 hours first. But since the French don't seem to have any
2-seat units in June 1916, they must fly it all as training time - and that must be
very boring. So I went down for 3 hours for all pilots.
Everyone else might of course spend those 3 hours in flying school as well.

Beanie and all: you can look through Trecce/bomber" squadrons in the enlistment
and should find plenty of units for the 2-seater-time.
After that you use the "transfer" option to get to the fighters.

Jim, if you could do that excel calculation, that would be a great help!
You would create and publish an E-Mail address for all pilots here in this thread;
everyone would send their data/records to you, and you send me the results via PM.
Would that be okay?
I will then make a graphic chart of the latest records once or twice per week.


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#3963976 - 06/06/14 09:29 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Olham and Jim - In advance of the start of the campaign - thank you for putting this together for us.

Your hard work is appreciated

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#3963989 - 06/06/14 09:40 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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#3964063 - 06/07/14 01:28 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Olham,
How I almost missed this is beyond me but I am all in. I have just gone through all the posts and I am a little confused on how often to fly and advance time. Other than that, this is the cat's meow. A little different flavor than Rick's fantastic Challenges. I am out of town at the moment but will be back Sunday and can start. Thanks again for your efforts in putting this on!
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#3964066 - 06/07/14 01:38 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Might have figured it out. Fly however many missions come up for that day, or 1 if we want. If we miss a few days, advance time until you are on the same date as real life? "All flights cancelled" go fishing and try again tomorrow?
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#3964079 - 06/07/14 02:56 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham

Scout, 2-seater time was 5 hours first. But since the French don't seem to have any
2-seat units in June 1916, they must fly it all as training time - and that must be
very boring. So I went down for 3 hours for all pilots.
Everyone else might of course spend those 3 hours in flying school as well.


Understood. I was just pointing out that page three of the rules still says 5 hours instead of 3 hours in a couple of spots.

#3964119 - 06/07/14 06:58 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham

Jim, if you could do that excel calculation, that would be a great help!
You would create and publish an E-Mail address for all pilots here in this thread;
everyone would send their data/records to you, and you send me the results via PM.
Would that be okay?
I will then make a graphic chart of the latest records once or twice per week.


I have an even better idea whereby the pilots can put in their figures on-line via a URL on my web site and those results will be emailed to me automagically.

Hold onto your goggles folks we are about to enter the 21st Century!

I will first set up an email address at woff_did_campaign@attrill.co.za and test it...

Unless you want a different name?


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#3964122 - 06/07/14 07:19 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Ok any emails to woff_did_campaign@attrill.co.za will be automatically forwarded to me.

Olham, is there any way that a list of pilot names can be produced - then I can put them in a 'drop down list' on the web and nobody else will be able to give their results.... It also cuts out mis-spellings of pilot names which is more important for the evaluation. Maybe from the vote on CombatAce?

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#3964137 - 06/07/14 08:47 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Ok all you pilots - have a go at this method of putting in your results:

http://www.attrill.co.za/WOFFcampaign.htm

You can submit your answers as this is just in test at the moment. Please leave comments in this thread.


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#3964151 - 06/07/14 10:31 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Great Jim!! thumbsup

#3964152 - 06/07/14 10:46 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Olham - one question .... Can I assume that the date flown is the date of capture but in 1916? So if someone captures their data on Sunday the 8th June 2014 I can assume that their flying date is 7/8 June 1916?

Also, do you get any points for being promoted? ie. Sgt = points calculated x 1, 2nd lieutenant = points calc x 1.1, lieutenant = ....... Somehow I don't like this idea much as rank doesn't come into it really except at the higher ranks you can lead.

I am going to add an active or dead field to the capture. Once a pilot is reported dead he stays dead winkngrin


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#3964153 - 06/07/14 11:00 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Completed the survey - no problems


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#3964155 - 06/07/14 11:15 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Ok Beanie - gotcha or should I say Vizefeldwebel Augustus Mueller?
I am flying as Sergeant Anthony Agrayne.

As far as I am concerned you can do the survey any time although maybe we should stick to Olham's idea of Sunday and Wednesday. Remember that the flying hours, sorties and victories are TOTALS at any one time and not incremental.

I am now working on the spreadsheet to calc the points earned. I am certainly not going to 'win' this campaign as I am a terrible pilot. Maybe I should stick to IT mycomputer

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#3964170 - 06/07/14 12:42 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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MFair - yes, you fly as often or as little as you want or can (and as the sim offers for that day.
If you haven't been flying for several days, you need to advance time manually to the new date.

Thank you, Scout - must correct that. Final rules appear today, Saturday.


JimAttrill - thanks for the great website - that should make it easier for all. The ranks must be (Brit, France, Ger., USA)
1. Sergeant / Adjutant / Offizierstellvertreter / 2nd Lieutenant
2. 2nd Lieutenant / Sous-Lieutenant / Leutnant / 1st Lieutenant
3. Lieutenant / Lieutenant / Oberleutnant / Captain
4. Captain / Capitaine / Hauptmann / Major
(Higher ranks differ, some don't have them, and so they will not be listed)

* Lieutanant / Oberleutnant /
Pilots must send their data with the last date flown. If they fell, they must tell the date.
New pilots can only begin one day after the demise - and in 2-seaters again.
A dead pilot will receive a last valuation with the next release of "valuation chart" I make.

The ranks stand for themselves - no further valuation.

Jim, please look into post #1 - the valuation was changed.
Will the valuation always be visible in your website? That would be great,
and I wouldn't have to make charts.
Or I only make a chart with the final records of fallen pilots.

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#3964174 - 06/07/14 01:04 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Already have the first mission under my belt (wing?) Bombing mission of enemy front lines.


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#3964178 - 06/07/14 01:18 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Beanie and all early flyers, please note your flight time AND your ZONE ACTIVITY (hot, medium or quiet)
with your flight hours for the valuation.
If your ZONE activity changes, list the next hours extra, with the new ZONE activity.

Jim_Attrill, can you make three lines for flight hours, with the additions "Hotspot", "Medium activity" and "Quiet zone" ?
Then each flyer can add the flight hours accordingly.
We would then also need
1. flight hours summed up
2. valuation according to ZONES (see changed rules and valuation, post #1)


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#3964179 - 06/07/14 01:24 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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PS: now it seems to get more complex than I had hoped - but there is no easy way to valuate
the ZONEs, as they are always changing here and there.
A simple multiplier wouldn't do - we must valuate the hours/zones seperately, and then
sum up for the valuation.


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#3964181 - 06/07/14 01:32 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Ok Olham, remember that WOFF itself only shows total flying hours. Now we are asking the pilots to cut their hours in three depending on the Zone they are in. I can do this, but it requires a lot of thought on their part and the keeping of a diary to show where they were and when. I can do 1 and 2 as above but I have no way of validating their responses. So then, each post on the site will have FOUR lots of hours
1. the WOFF total
2. Hotspot recent hours for this post
3. ditto Medium for this post
4. ditto Quiet Zone for this post

For obvious reasons only one figure can be put in for 2 3 and 4 though I can't stop them doing that...

I would suggest that we don't do this. Just work on the total hours?

But I'll change the web site accordingly.


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#3964185 - 06/07/14 01:39 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Jim, pls check your PMs - we should communicate this there.


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#3964187 - 06/07/14 01:43 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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PLEASE WAIT, EVERYBODY

Please don't start yet - the valuation needs to be fixed and settled first.
Otherwise you may be missing something to report, that we'd need.



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