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#3963084 - 06/05/14 11:28 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules ***** [Re: nbryant]  
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Originally Posted By: nbryant
Second. Does anyone have a quick list of recce/bomber squadrons available on 6/6/16? A quick in game look and I didn't come across any French squadrons (the closest one was dated 10/9/16). And if you enlist with Britain I don't think you can transfer to a French unit, right?


You raise a good point there.
There could be a problem with the rules if you want to fly for french Aronautique Militaire. You are supposed to spend 5 hours in a two seater before transferring to a fighter unit. Problem is that first two seater unit for France I find in the game is SOP 5 in Alsace in Sept 1917 flying Sopwith Strutters.
There is no two seater french unit in 1916, which was always surprising for me (but not so much because you are missing many reco/bomb french planes like the Caudron, Farman - or even later the Breguet XIV B2 or Salmson 2 which were both built and used in large numbers)

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#3963100 - 06/05/14 12:26 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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nbryant, you don't need to send pilot files to me.
We must trust each other with everything anyway, so you just send me some data per PM;
I will specify in the rules, what and how.

As for French 2-seaters: I couldn't find ANY units using the Morane Parasol anymore,
which I had hoped would be there at least.
That would mean, that the French flyers can only do 5 hours of flight training
(which I hope is on a two-seater even for the French).
That is damn boring, but also quite safe.

Scout, the AI may be a good indicator for LEVEL A fliers - they behave like startled bees
when they spot enemies, and it should help you to position yourself.
I know, you'd like it even harder, but rest assured: it will be tough enough.

CatKnight, you cannot switch countries for the same pilot, but you can - after the demise
of one flyer - enlist with another country one day later.


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#3963118 - 06/05/14 12:57 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Since there are no French two-seater units available for the campaign start, I have changed the rules;
see post #1.

The French will have to fly their two-seater time as traqining flights.
Everyone will have to fly only 3 hours on 2-seaters now.
I know that will be boring for the French, and maybe for many others too, but it is a measure
to raise the discipline for all, not to risk their later fighter pilots easily - cause then
it would be 3 hours on 2-seaters again for the next feller.
(Robert, I guess the 3 hours will please you)


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#3963160 - 06/05/14 02:02 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Olham, you may want to consider setting up a standalone gmail account and email address for people to send you their info, otherwise your pm box may fill up quickly!

#3963171 - 06/05/14 02:23 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Thx, Rick, but same goes for my E-Mail account - it has only limited space.
I hope I can always delete the older PMs?


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#3963302 - 06/05/14 07:07 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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The LEVEL rules were changed - LEVEL C flyers can set the distance for "dots" to 5000,
and they may use the Targetting Cone. This might make the C-LEVEL attractive for all,
who have no TrackIR or other tracking device.

Guys, I have NO idea yet how to valuate the difference between "hot spot", "medium activity" and "quiet zone".
A multiplier for POINTS or ENDURANCE wouldn't work, as the zone activity may change often.
If you have any good ideas, please let me know.


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#3963314 - 06/05/14 07:35 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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I think Dropbox would be a really good workaround for sending and receiving files here...

#3963378 - 06/05/14 09:41 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Count me in. I'll probably fly level A (gonna miss dots frown ). Looking forward to it though.

All the rules are posted on the first page right?

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#3963392 - 06/05/14 10:14 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Going back to what CatNight asked. If you had the time to commit, could you not create a French, British and German character and fly one flight per day for each? I was thinking of trying to run two careers in parallel...... maybe!

#3963530 - 06/06/14 04:48 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Points for Zones:

A multiplier would probably work just fine, depending on how you plan to track it. If people are reporting to you weekly, then the chart on page 1 could be used to assign an activity level.

I imagine the problem begins when a zone changes level. It might be a little more work depending on how you're working this behind the scenes, but if (for example) you're using a spreadsheet program, you could have one row for each pilot at each difficulty level, then a separate row adding everything together for purpose of publication.

Or you could simply drop it as a consideration. Someone in a quieter sector is in less danger, but they have less opportunities as well.

#3963586 - 06/06/14 09:14 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Aris and all: you guys should post me your records via PM - I'll specify in the rules.
The chart will be a graphic which I put into this thread.

Minalmist, all updates for rules are in post #1.

nbryant, only one character is allowed per user; otherwise it would get too complex for me to handle.
Also, I would like to see that everyone fully concentrates on the survival of his pilot.
If we had several pilots going, we might risk one or another more easily.

As for the points for different area activity:
I think I will add a column in the chart for the zone points for "hot", "medium" or "quiet" zones.
And maybe valuate the points then in a new way, which considers the "zone points".
I'll specify that in the rules.


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#3963593 - 06/06/14 09:46 AM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Some updates made in post #1 -
final rules will be fixed on Saturday evening or earlier.
There will then be a confirmation under post #1.


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#3963694 - 06/06/14 02:55 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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(This is only a thought, not an attempt to have the rules modified... smile2)

I've seen in the rules you must enter at a low rank (Sgt/Vizefeldwebel) and select "Lead by rank", which means you will have to top a good number of missions before being able to lead a flight.

Although this is more historical, I prefer in my own campaigns entering with a higher rank (Lt) and "Always lead". Flying in Rick's challenges have confirmed me in this way :

- as low rank you might have an older plane and you're not able to keep up with the flight (N17 / N23 in the RFC 60) 2 missions I lost them and had to RTB.
- you have to do the boring "turn and climb to altitude" script when the AI pilots are as blind as during the landing script (I had enemy planes crossing our path 200m lower than us and noone moved) When I lead I skip waypoints with shift-W to point directly to the mission hotspot and choose my own path and altitude. (Sometimes altitude set at the briefing can take you above the clouds layer for an artillery support flight and you cannot see the ground.)
- AI leaders stick to the briefing waypoints, when sometimes another path would be smarter (like flying across enemy territory to rejoin a patrol station when it would be smarter to stay on your own side and fly along the front)
- they sometimes take strange decisions like aborting a mission for no apparent reason (except going to the crapper as someone pointed out...)and landing on the closest airfield.

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#3963727 - 06/06/14 03:46 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Hi Olham: I am looking forward to the big start on Sunday! A minor item to look at ... the rules initially mention the minimum two-seater time as 3 hours, but then later in the rules 5 hours is mentioned.

#3963777 - 06/06/14 04:35 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: CatKnight]  
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Points for Zones: I agree with Catknight. It would be less work just to drop it since the quiet sections would equal lower scores and points.


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#3963831 - 06/06/14 05:57 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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How do I take on a pilot for the 7th June? I don't seem to have the option....

When I last tried the << and >> keys didn't do anything. Now they do, so I have enlisted on the 7th June No 18 Squadron RFC flying FE2b's (I didn't want a BE2c squadron in 1916). Also Sgts get to fly them.

So, Corsaire, you have to go through the squadrons until you find one where the top ranks and the bottom ranks fly the same aircraft. 18 sqn was one such squadron, though there may be others.




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#3963846 - 06/06/14 06:11 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: JimAttrill]  
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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
How do I take on a pilot for the 7th June? I don't seem to have the option....


On the enlistment screen there is a button on the lower right for manual squad enlistment. You can then pick your country, squad and arrow through to the start date.

Edit: heh, glad you got it yep

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#3963850 - 06/06/14 06:21 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: JimAttrill]  
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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill

So, Corsaire, you have to go through the squadrons until you find one where the top ranks and the bottom ranks fly the same aircraft. 18 sqn was one such squadron, though there may be others.


No hurry I don't plan to join before September, my summer schedule includes fewer flying hours on the PC and they are already booked by other commitments (my own campaigns in WOFF and ROF and my FSX/Air Hauler companies). I will have time to see how it goes ! smile2

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#3963852 - 06/06/14 06:22 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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Olham (and anybody else for that matter) I can give you an email address on my web site that has plenty of room. It will cost you nothing at all - I look after 4 web sites and they all have lots of disk space and free email addresses. For example, my personal web site has 20 email addresses of which I use one!

I could pm you your 'new' email address which would be olham@domain_name and your password. Funnily enough, the host is Hetzner which is a German company although they also run a lot of sites here in SA.

I am working on a simple Excel spread sheet which would do the calculations of points automatically. You can then copy/paste the results into the forum - I do this for similar reasons on another forum.


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#3963891 - 06/06/14 07:46 PM Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules [Re: Olham]  
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For anyone thinking of joining as a German flyer - I have found FA5Lb (Flanders Haubourdin field).

They start Jun 17 with Avialik C1 (All ranks), later getting Roland CII


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