Lots of stuff improved, but still some ways to go before I jump back in:
I'd say in another 6 months with some more bugs fixed, UI improved I will give it another try.
I liked the eyecandy, I liked the more story focus compared to the previous 4X focused games, what I didn't like was paying full price for a game that had more campaign bugs and UI and script problems than most discount "early-access" games I've bought.
Terribly mismanaged game release... I doubt I will ever give these guys another dime.
I haven't played it, so WTF do I know, but I think Egosoft's days are numbered. They cannot make a playable/enjoyable game without lots of community support, and the incompetent insult that was Stillbirth has caused that community to be less than thrilled about modding that game. When Elite is released, and then Star Citizen, Egosoft is either going to go out of business or learn how to create a functional, polished, and enjoyable game. Mark my words.
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#3936060 - 04/08/1404:07 AMRe: After the hype, the fight and the backlash........
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I wish they'd make a version of the X3 games that was more RTS style and not in-ship. Maybe give you the option for direct control, like the Battlestations games, but more management oriented with faster growth. I don't think Elite or SC will put them out of business. Their games are still what those aren't--single player and not an MMO. Not everyone wants to pay continuously and be subject to all that comes with those games, like griefers and those that ruin the immersion. They may put themselves out of business though if they put too much into a losing game, trying to force this one to succeed and sticking to it too long.
Let me put it this way....if Egosoft doesnt stop suckng, they are doomed
Yeah agreed about the loss of community support, with Rebirth they had already alienated the part of their fanbase that loved the 4X game complexity with Rebirth leaving that behind, but then by shipping such an broken/unfinished game at full price, they burned the good will of the rest of us fanbase that had pre-ordered this expecting a fun (if simplified) game.
I'm someone who tends to focus on the good parts of games and not the bad, and I buy lots of "early-release" games to help support the developer if I think they are working on something worth supporting, but even I feel cheated and lied-to and ripped off with my pre-order of X:Rebirth.
I'm sure at some point this might be an ok $9 game on a Steam sale with patches and mods, but it will be hard for them to win back the good will of everyone who pre-ordered it based on the prerelease videos and trust, we will not be so dumb/trusting for anything they do in the future.
Stardock did a similar bad thing with Elemental: War of Magic, and they've done a lot more to apologize, give free upgrades to those who bought it, to win back the customer's trust than Egosoft has, but even Stardock haven't fully recovered the community's trust and support, and I haven't seen Egosoft even fully apologize or provide any compensation for those of us who bought the broken game at full price.
i dunno what egosoft will do/how they will survive once the likes of elite are released- i see all but only the most hardcore leaving the x franchise in droves. i know i will be.
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#3953878 - 05/15/1402:03 PMRe: After the hype, the fight and the backlash........
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Being a long time X fan (of the good x games) There is utterly no way in hell I am going to buy this at any price. I will not support crap.
And x-rebirth is exactly that. A big cow patty flung in your face.
Its missing most of the things that made x games.. well X games.
Not me mate. No way !!!!!!!!!!! They can shove it.
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#3953942 - 05/15/1403:51 PMRe: After the hype, the fight and the backlash........
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Not me mate. No way !!!!!!!!!!! They can shove it.
You are as mad (or more) as those of us who got fooled into pre-ordering this beautiful but unfinished mess
Hopefully in a year (Elite) or two (Star Citizen), we will have some great space sims that make X:Rebirth something to forget along with Egosoft and their crappy game release tactics.
Then again Star Citizen could just as easily still be a weekly Youtube livestream show in two years... just kidding fellow SC crowd funders please don't let me get burned by that too heheh
#3953962 - 05/15/1404:14 PMRe: After the hype, the fight and the backlash........
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Then again Star Citizen could just as easily still be a weekly Youtube livestream show in two years... just kidding fellow SC crowd funders please don't let me get burned by that too heheh
That is my biggest worry. Star Citizen now has the potential to totally destroy the pay before you see marketing model.
Just the sheer amount of money invested in this, if the game is mediocre, its going to cause a massive backlash, let alone if the money is squandered and all that pre-pay is dissolved into nothingness.
I have only bought one ship in star citizen, and whilst i can't wait for the game to be released, i kinda feel like i am waiting for a bending over.
Fingers crossed (not for the bending over ) .
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#3953965 - 05/15/1404:16 PMRe: After the hype, the fight and the backlash........
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That is my biggest worry. Star Citizen now has the potential to totally destroy the pay before you see marketing model.
Just the sheer amount of money invested in this, if the game is mediocre, its going to cause a massive backlash, let alone if the money is squandered and all that pre-pay is dissolved into nothingness.
I have only bought one ship in star citizen, and whilst i can't wait for the game to be released, i kinda feel like i am waiting for a bending over.
Fingers crossed (not for the bending over ) .
I agree and am in exactly the same boat... at some point the SC stretch goals and promises have reached a ridiculous point where it will be hard for them to even meet the expectations for what they promise... all the mean while the timelines slip for the dogfight module.
X:Rebirth fiasco killed my trust in pre-orders, and the long slow dev cycles of rFactor2 and pCARS and Star Citizen have killed my interest in crowd funding, at this point I just hope not to end up bent over on those as much as I did on X:Rebirth.
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Ill never touch an X game now that I have Elite even though I have them all.
That is good to hear Mace, I am really looking forward to Elite.
#3954026 - 05/15/1405:19 PMRe: After the hype, the fight and the backlash........
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Well, the autopilot improvements seems cool, orders for large ships (like prev games) and not having to play Frogger on the highway is definitely a step in the right direction. I may give it another shot, but I don't see what they could do to get the hardcore feel back. Sounds like the game might pick up after getting into it a good bit, but if I get too bored early on, I'll never see it.
From what I have seen of SC sofar I dont think they are going to bend us over but we wont know until they drop their release later this month (knock on wood) and hopefully both SC and ED wont suck so we should get at least one good space game out of this whole thing right?
Nope, supposedly the devs said they would add Occulus Rift and TrackIR support at some time in the future, but seems like there's plenty of stuff to fix ahead of that.