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#3907878 - 02/06/14 08:39 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: Baur]  
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I probably do not understand? I already gave the link to purchase -
Originally Posted By: Baur
Subject sale - http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24087#24087
You have to use Google translator. yep
I sold the most in Russia. One guy from Germany promised to write to this forum when it receives KG13. His premise already left Russia customs.

You can also buy it wink

Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#3910436 - 02/11/14 06:07 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Picures from one Bauer happy consumer. wink

Bauer KG13B grip + Bauer BRD Flight 4000 base and custom(?) Bf109 like rudder pedal.





Sokol1




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#3910446 - 02/11/14 06:25 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Wow!!! That is an impressive set-up, very realistic controls.

#3910559 - 02/11/14 10:14 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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I like that very much.


Sorely tempted by the Baur grip, but I just can't afford it right now.

The horrible bit is by the time I can, there will be no more available

#3910586 - 02/11/14 11:37 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Hot damn! Baur's been holding out on us. He makes joystick gimbals too?!

That's some terrific kit you've got there, Sokol.

Where do we sign up, Baur?

Congratulations and Happy Flying, Sokol.

Keep up the good work, Baur.

Cheers,

Flying Colander

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#3910635 - 02/12/14 03:01 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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FC

Bauer make (and sold) metal laser cut kit for gimbal assembly - that is done with nut and bolts, and rivets.
Options for adapt in COTS joystick or DIY desk mount, long stick. The laser cut ensure precise assembly for ball bearings.

I dont know real numbers, but seem they are affordable.
http://avia-sim.ru/forum/files/6_207.jpg

BTW - These pictures is not mine (unfortunately), is from one Bauer consumer from Russia. I link then here to show more of Bauer work. wink

Sokol1

#3910689 - 02/12/14 06:23 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Very nice setup! I especially like the replica einhet pedals! they are looking really sharp!
Baur is quite a designer. It is a pity that most of his work is hidden from us on russian forums.

#3910692 - 02/12/14 06:45 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Sorry, Sokol, I thought "one happy Baur customer" meant you. Dreaming is free.

MMaister, you are right about all the great, hidden work on the Russian forums. I only know of it because of Sokol's reports to the rest of us non-Slavic fliers. I think the Russians are leading the way in all things flight sim. They're programming the next gen games, BoS and DCS WWII, and building great hardware, VKB, Baur, Slaw & Milan (Eastern Europe).

Just missing Norway... Still trying to convince you to go commercial with your designs, MMaister! Hint, hint. No pressure, mate.

Cheers,

FC

#3910724 - 02/12/14 09:46 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Thanks for the help Sokol1! With your help, I also learned a lot.
Hard for me to talk about their work in foreign forums. After all, I do not speak English.

In Russia there are a great legacy from the Soviet Union - many designers, many programmers. And we are now making weapons for virtual wars. :)))

I have four years here doing this joystick - http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=704
This year will be the next optimization. Get version number 4.
Even before I do this this new model - http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=758&start=15

He can be put and KG13.

NOT a lot of pedals -
http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=682
http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716
http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=772

But selling to Europe from Russia is very difficult. frown I sent KG 13 22.01.2014 in Germany. Sending still did not come. frown I'm very excited!


Sokol1, I will be happy if you continue to help me.

#3919003 - 03/02/14 10:22 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Hi,

So I have an awesome KG 13 ordered of = Baur = and get even!;-)

I must say that at first I had to consider whether everything works, but it worked!

I do not know how it is with the shipping in different countries, to my Germany it worked!

The delivery took forever, about a month.... post office and customs ...

So I can only say that you get from = Baur = a really great stick,
great support during shipping and everything farther!

Again Thank you = Baur =

and to all the people who plan to order one KG13.... does it, you will be amazed!

Ciao carh451

Translated with google

#3919366 - 03/03/14 07:11 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Originally Posted By: carh451

I do not know how it is with the shipping in different countries, to my Germany it worked!

The delivery took forever, about a month.... post office and customs ...
I am very pleased that the pen (KG 13) arrived safely in Germany!

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#3922140 - 03/09/14 08:10 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Baur, if you sell stick bases with interchangeable grips, all of us here will be yelling "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!" faster than you can take it all.

Someone else I met says that your gimbal design is the best-engineered on the market with the cam system. Better than the Black Mamba, better than the U2-NXT, better than everything. Perfect smoothness and easily-tailored force profiles are possible with it, he claims.

I'd like to try one out myself, but obviously, ordering a gimbal is a bit of a problem. I bet you'd make a lot of sales by selling Saitek X-52 mod kits of the sort I saw pictures of somewhere; that's actually how I first heard of you.

Alternatively, I'd suggest selling stick bases with the user's choice of stick grips. KG13s are too simple for my tastes, but a near-authentic MiG-29, Su-27 or Su-35 grip without the omissions found in the Defender Cobra M5/VKB Black Mamba grip (missing cannon trigger chief among them) would be great.

Even better yet, if you're willing to produce a force-feedback variant, make a Ka-50 cyclic and corresponding anti-torque pedals!

#3922179 - 03/09/14 11:48 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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#3922337 - 03/09/14 08:29 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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There's several modern grips in that thread, and they're all shaping up nicely!

I do have one minor concern about the trigger assembly, however; I only spot two microswitches, one for each trigger.

This is fine for most purposes, but due to the way DCS handles cannon modes, there needs to be a way for it to detect when the main trigger is flipped up so that it switches into and out of cannon mode, and that presumably requires another microswitch.

It's a cramped space in there, though; I'm not sure if they even have room for an additional tac switch or other form of microswitch to accomplish that.

They could also sell these stick grips for Cougar/Warthog, Black Mamba and maybe even X-55 use, but my concern with all three of those is that those sticks' grip interfaces presumably only handle digital button inputs, and the slew control on real Russian sticks is analog, of course. They'd have to downgrade that aspect to a digital hat with click-down for it to work.

#3923088 - 03/11/14 10:19 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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NamelessPFG, I agree with you completely on all issues. smile I can not give away all the time designing and manufacturing joysticks. It is not possible to earn enough money. In Russia it is very difficult to organize business.

#3941946 - 04/20/14 08:30 AM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: Baur]  
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Originally Posted By: Baur
I probably do not understand? I already gave the link to purchase -
Originally Posted By: Baur
Subject sale - http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24087#24087
You have to use Google translator. yep
I sold the most in Russia. One guy from Germany promised to write to this forum when it receives KG13. His premise already left Russia customs.

You can also buy it wink

Hi,Baur
I've been follow your project for a long time. So excited that you put it on sale~ I'd like to have one or more,so how can I pay for it? Ebay or somthing?

#3942467 - 04/21/14 04:14 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Need to hurry. There are only four pieces. They are disassembled. They need to collect (glue and screw to put a button). I can do it in May.
You can pay through Western Union.

#3943408 - 04/23/14 05:51 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: Baur]  
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I only have Paypal,sad~~ nope

#3943910 - 04/24/14 03:50 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Paypal is very difficult to cash in Russia. frown

#3949250 - 05/05/14 01:10 PM Re: Baur`s KG13 Grip [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Hello Baur,
congratulations for your work. I sent you a private message with my details, for the purchase of the latest version with the KG13 grip. If you send me your information for the western union you send the money.

I live in Italy..

salute

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