#3938779 - 04/13/14 08:48 PM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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#3938809 - 04/13/14 10:29 PM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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The crosswinds seem like a good design, but unless they're quite a bit cheaper I don't see how they can compare. The Slaw pedals do literally work like a watch. There is no 'give' or flex anywhere in the design, and the sense of solidity and heavy duty precision can't be understood until you put your feet on them. They put every other piece of sim equipment I've got to shame.
If these were manufactured in the US, they'd be $1200-$1500 at least.
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#3938917 - 04/14/14 08:49 AM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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#3938990 - 04/14/14 02:00 PM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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The crosswinds seem like a good design, but unless they're quite a bit cheaper I don't see how they can compare. The Slaw pedals do literally work like a watch. There is no 'give' or flex anywhere in the design, and the sense of solidity and heavy duty precision can't be understood until you put your feet on them. They put every other piece of sim equipment I've got to shame.
If these were manufactured in the US, they'd be $1200-$1500 at least. Only around £20 difference between them, metal vs composite...
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#3939129 - 04/14/14 05:56 PM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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The composite material used on the MFG Pedals is not necessary a disadvantage. It's very sturdy and made for heavy duty use,just as the metal used on the Slaw Pedals. The material doesn't flex or give in,no matter how hard you push it with your feet....or your Hand. You can certainly break it with the right tools and brute force. But this can also be said about Steel or Aluminium. I haven't tried the Slaw Pedals,so I can't really compare them first hand. But I own and use a set of MFG Pedals since August 2013,its the 2nd or 3rd unit ever sold. They are aswell smooth and precise,I'd say it can't get any better and they are certainly on par with the Slaw pedals.
Where I can see the MFG's advantage is the exchangeable centering Profiles and the Software where you have different options like Noise filtering and Deadzones if you ever want to set it. It's also possible to use the brakeaxis as a Button for older sims or just as additional button on any other sim where planes have no use for Wheelbrakes. Don't get me wrong,both products are loved by different people for different reasons,and both have their own advantage or disadvantage over the other product and I would also love to try a Set of Slaw Pedals at some point,if I ever get a chance.
Sorry,I just had to post this,because I've read things like "it's composite" or that "you can't compare those both pedals".
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#3939348 - 04/14/14 11:33 PM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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They are different, they are a different design. Crosswinds use a cam, Slaw's use a more traditional set up. The design and style are totally different too.
In that respect I don't think they are comparable. There are some that like the cam set up with a nullified centring, I like a more definitive centre feel. I also like the 109 look of the pedals, whereas Crosswinds are more generic. I like the more definitive center feel as well. I'm using Simped F-16s right now, and while they are well-built, I don't like the mushiness of the brakes and the steep angle of the pedals.
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#3939380 - 04/15/14 12:40 AM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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[quote=Brigstock]T There are some that like the cam set up with a nullified centring, I like a more definitive centre feel.
The nice of cam system is that can have a loose center - like helicopter pilots want - or definite center just change the cam. Sokol1
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#3939436 - 04/15/14 02:45 AM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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The nice of cam system is that can have a loose center - like helicopter pilots want - or definite center just change the cam.Sokol1 Sure, but seeing that I'm not really into helicopter sims (it's been a long time since I loaded up Black Shark), the more traditional defined center works fine for me. That, and I don't like to fiddle with my controllers - one setting that works well for all my games is what I prefer.
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#3939497 - 04/15/14 06:41 AM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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They are different, they are a different design. Crosswinds use a cam, Slaw's use a more traditional set up. The design and style are totally different too.
In that respect I don't think they are comparable. There are some that like the cam set up with a nullified centring, I like a more definitive centre feel. I also like the 109 look of the pedals, whereas Crosswinds are more generic. I like the more definitive center feel as well. I'm using Simped F-16s right now, and while they are well-built, I don't like the mushiness of the brakes and the steep angle of the pedals. I went from Simpeds to the Slaw pedals, it was most definitely an upgrade
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#3939576 - 04/15/14 12:50 PM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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Any Slaw owners out there with Obutto Ozone cockpits? Only thing holding me back from getting on the list is Im not sure it will fit! Ive seen the size specs...it will be close with the pedels on the innermost setting...but I'd appreciate anyone with an Ozone and Slaw to post pictures. Also, anyone with MFG pedals who has a Obutto would be appreciated as well.
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#3939590 - 04/15/14 01:02 PM
Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F)
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It's very easy to mod the pedals for nullified center... Though obviously not as easy as changing cams, but much easier than say, CH or Saitek... Here is a concept...
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