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#3938772 - 04/13/14 08:32 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) **** [Re: Slaw]  
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So, how do I get on the purchase list for these? smile

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#3938779 - 04/13/14 08:48 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Click on Slaws username/profile and his contact email is there Luke

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#3938809 - 04/13/14 10:29 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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The crosswinds seem like a good design, but unless they're quite a bit cheaper I don't see how they can compare. The Slaw pedals do literally work like a watch. There is no 'give' or flex anywhere in the design, and the sense of solidity and heavy duty precision can't be understood until you put your feet on them. They put every other piece of sim equipment I've got to shame.

If these were manufactured in the US, they'd be $1200-$1500 at least.


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#3938915 - 04/14/14 08:32 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Good post Capt.
Sums up my feelings too.
You can't really compare the two products.
I'm sure the Crosswinds are a good product that do what they need to do well.
But for engineering and style the Slaws stand head and shoulders above any competition.

#3938917 - 04/14/14 08:49 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Speyer]  
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Originally Posted By: Speyer
Click on Slaws username/profile and his contact email is there Luke


Thanks!

#3938990 - 04/14/14 02:00 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Capt_Hook]  
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Originally Posted By: Capt_Hook
The crosswinds seem like a good design, but unless they're quite a bit cheaper I don't see how they can compare. The Slaw pedals do literally work like a watch. There is no 'give' or flex anywhere in the design, and the sense of solidity and heavy duty precision can't be understood until you put your feet on them. They put every other piece of sim equipment I've got to shame.

If these were manufactured in the US, they'd be $1200-$1500 at least.


Only around £20 difference between them, metal vs composite...

#3939129 - 04/14/14 05:56 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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The composite material used on the MFG Pedals is not necessary a disadvantage. It's very sturdy and made for heavy duty use,just as the metal used on the Slaw Pedals. The material doesn't flex or give in,no matter how hard you push it with your feet....or your Hand. You can certainly break it with the right tools and brute force. But this can also be said about Steel or Aluminium. I haven't tried the Slaw Pedals,so I can't really compare them first hand. But I own and use a set of MFG Pedals since August 2013,its the 2nd or 3rd unit ever sold. They are aswell smooth and precise,I'd say it can't get any better and they are certainly on par with the Slaw pedals.

Where I can see the MFG's advantage is the exchangeable centering Profiles and the Software where you have different options like Noise filtering and Deadzones if you ever want to set it. It's also possible to use the brakeaxis as a Button for older sims or just as additional button on any other sim where planes have no use for Wheelbrakes.
Don't get me wrong,both products are loved by different people for different reasons,and both have their own advantage or disadvantage over the other product and I would also love to try a Set of Slaw Pedals at some point,if I ever get a chance.

Sorry,I just had to post this,because I've read things like "it's composite" or that "you can't compare those both pedals".

#3939144 - 04/14/14 06:11 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Well it shouldn't be a 'your pedals are better than my pedals' sort of thread, but when we are talking about a high end purchase like this then comparisons are obviously going to be made between the two main contenders. I know someone with the MFG's, he is blown away with them, for me, I still have to come to a final decision.

#3939197 - 04/14/14 07:27 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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It's truly a tough choice. You will be happy with either of them,I'm sure.

#3939216 - 04/14/14 07:50 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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For me, it's a tossup between the two, but I do have to say I am leaning towards the Slaw pedals right now simply because I like the looks of them (I've always wanted a nice WWII style set of pedals).

#3939217 - 04/14/14 07:51 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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They are different, they are a different design. Crosswinds use a cam, Slaw's use a more traditional set up.
The design and style are totally different too.

In that respect I don't think they are comparable.
There are some that like the cam set up with a nullified centring, I like a more definitive centre feel.
I also like the 109 look of the pedals, whereas Crosswinds are more generic.

It really is down to personal preference.
You are either going to feel more inclined to one than the other based on the style and design of each product.

#3939344 - 04/14/14 11:27 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Well, I put my name on the list for the Slaw pedals, so I'll find out soon enough how they are. smile

#3939348 - 04/14/14 11:33 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Brigstock]  
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Originally Posted By: Brigstock
They are different, they are a different design. Crosswinds use a cam, Slaw's use a more traditional set up.
The design and style are totally different too.

In that respect I don't think they are comparable.
There are some that like the cam set up with a nullified centring, I like a more definitive centre feel.
I also like the 109 look of the pedals, whereas Crosswinds are more generic.


I like the more definitive center feel as well. I'm using Simped F-16s right now, and while they are well-built, I don't like the mushiness of the brakes and the steep angle of the pedals.

#3939380 - 04/15/14 12:40 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: LukeFF]  
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Originally Posted By: LukeFF
[quote=Brigstock]T
There are some that like the cam set up with a nullified centring, I like a more definitive centre feel.


The nice of cam system is that can have a loose center - like helicopter pilots want - or definite center
just change the cam.

Sokol1

#3939436 - 04/15/14 02:45 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Sokol1
The nice of cam system is that can have a loose center - like helicopter pilots want - or definite center just change the cam.Sokol1


Sure, but seeing that I'm not really into helicopter sims (it's been a long time since I loaded up Black Shark), the more traditional defined center works fine for me. That, and I don't like to fiddle with my controllers - one setting that works well for all my games is what I prefer.

#3939497 - 04/15/14 06:41 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: LukeFF]  
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Originally Posted By: LukeFF
Originally Posted By: Brigstock
They are different, they are a different design. Crosswinds use a cam, Slaw's use a more traditional set up.
The design and style are totally different too.

In that respect I don't think they are comparable.
There are some that like the cam set up with a nullified centring, I like a more definitive centre feel.
I also like the 109 look of the pedals, whereas Crosswinds are more generic.


I like the more definitive center feel as well. I'm using Simped F-16s right now, and while they are well-built, I don't like the mushiness of the brakes and the steep angle of the pedals.


I went from Simpeds to the Slaw pedals, it was most definitely an upgrade smile

#3939545 - 04/15/14 10:50 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Brigstock]  
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Originally Posted By: Brigstock
I went from Simpeds to the Slaw pedals, it was most definitely an upgrade smile


That's good to hear! yep Slaw said the next batch should be ready around the end of May, so hopefully I can wait that long. biggrin

#3939576 - 04/15/14 12:50 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Any Slaw owners out there with Obutto Ozone cockpits? Only thing holding me back from getting on the list is Im not sure it will fit! Ive seen the size specs...it will be close with the pedels on the innermost setting...but I'd appreciate anyone with an Ozone and Slaw to post pictures. Also, anyone with MFG pedals who has a Obutto would be appreciated as well.


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#3939590 - 04/15/14 01:02 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Sokol1]  
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It's very easy to mod the pedals for nullified center... Though obviously not as easy as changing cams, but much easier than say, CH or Saitek...

Here is a concept...



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#3939927 - 04/15/14 09:18 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: LukeFF]  
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Originally Posted By: LukeFF
Well, I put my name on the list for the Slaw pedals, so I'll find out soon enough how they are. smile


Same biggrin

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