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#3918464 - 02/28/14 11:15 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) **** [Re: Slaw]  
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#3918500 - 03/01/14 12:10 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Would like to get in the wait list for these, how can I?

#3928630 - 03/22/14 09:29 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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I want to have one of those next month (extra pay here)
What should I do?

#3928824 - 03/23/14 02:18 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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PM slaw on this board. Or PM me and I'll give you his email.

Don't really want to put his email in this tread without his permission

#3931088 - 03/28/14 01:49 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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His email address is in his public profile. Just click his name. thumbsup

Mine were ready yesterday, right about when Slaw said they'd be. Paid for them today, and he did something almost mean... he sent pics of my pedals via PM. Seeing them and knowing they're on the other side of the planet and won't be here in Texas for weeks is almost torture. shedevil

The Saitek combat pedals aren't bad, per se, but for the price their action isn't all that great. A lot of 'sticktion' around the center, and in the current FM of the 109 in BoS that makes fine nose control very difficult. I'm salivating over using these, especially now that MP is up 24x7.

I also appreciate being able to support an artist, vs. a factory somewhere in China.


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Sim Toys: Warthog - 8cm Simpit Hog extension - TIR5 - CH Quadrant - Slaw Device rudder pedals - Obutto R3v
#3931436 - 03/28/14 07:54 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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This center system is used by VKB pedals for more than 10 years.

http://www.vkb-flightsimcontrols.com/zakaz/index_z.php

The "soft" (or not) in center probable depends of spring used.

Sokol1

#3931709 - 03/29/14 12:05 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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@Capt Hook, welcome to the Slaw Device owners club smile Don't worry as excruciating as the wait for the pedals is, when they arrive that pain will subside very quickly.

@Troll, there is a definite centre feel through the axis, but the pedals don't fight to return to centre like some off the shelf pedals.
There is also spring adjustment, the spring tension can be adjusted through placement of the spring.

I love these pedals, I love the look of them, the sturdy design and the pin point precision. Most definitely one of my all time favourite flight sim peripheral buys smile

#3932062 - 03/30/14 09:20 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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done

Thank you all

#3933311 - 04/02/14 03:11 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: ]  
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Before I ordered the Slaw Pedals, i had my concerns about the center dedents too. But after I tried it, it's really a none issue. The detent is actually somewhat 'soft'. I think it's actually dampened by the rubber stopper in the middle.

Now after using the pedals for several weeks, I actually prefer this over no detent at all - without detents you don't really have a feel for true center, but with this pair pedals, I can feel the center, and when transitioning out of the detent, I don't over correct due to the softness of the detent.

#3933674 - 04/02/14 11:03 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Sokol1
This center system is used by VKB pedals for more than 10 years.

http://www.vkb-flightsimcontrols.com/zakaz/index_z.php

The "soft" (or not) in center probable depends of spring used.

Sokol1


I imagine VKB sells everything he makes with a waiting list to boot, but if he ever wants to expand his business I think he'd get a LOT of interest with an english version of his web site.

I'm happy with the Warthog (especially with the extension), but then again it was the only game in town. If I could easily order VKB's stuff I'd probably go that way when it comes time to replace it.

It's sad that the US has no small entrepreneurs / artists making high-quality, low-run equipment for our hobby like VKB, Slaw, and Crosswind. Eastern Europe / Russia has the monopoly. sigh

Edit: Can't forget IJ. But he's even further away in Australia.

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#3934363 - 04/04/14 09:06 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Capt_Hook]  
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Originally Posted By: Capt_Hook


It's sad that the US has no small entrepreneurs / artists making high-quality, low-run equipment for our hobby like VKB, Slaw, and Crosswind. Eastern Europe / Russia has the monopoly. sigh

Edit: Can't forget IJ. But he's even further away in Australia.


Well, it has one simple reason:

The labor and manufacturing costs in Russia and even E-Europe are much lower than in the US or W-Europe. The VKB stick would cost 2-3 time more if it was engineered and built in the US, so very few could actually afford it.

For the same reason for a relatively lower profit it is still worth to work for in the eastern countries.

Clever and capable engineers on the west are not willing to use their free time for such a time demanding work as low run production and product support when they earn enough at their workplaces.

No offense here. I live and work in Norway, but I am a native Hungarian, so I know both worlds smile

#3936652 - 04/09/14 02:34 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Pedals arrived today after being mailed on 3/28. Pretty fast for a HEAVY box going to the other side of the world! Packaged *extremely* well... took a good 5 minutes to free them from the box.

The construction quality and precision of this exquisite piece of machine art cannot be understated. It just can't. You have to see them and work them to believe it. No more nose wobble in the F-4 in BoS!

Very, very happy customer of Slaw. If he did this kind of treatment for a stick / throttle assembly, I'd happily take out a second mortgage to pay for them. thumbsup




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Sim Toys: Warthog - 8cm Simpit Hog extension - TIR5 - CH Quadrant - Slaw Device rudder pedals - Obutto R3v
#3937188 - 04/10/14 06:24 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Would love to get a set of these but the cost from Poland had to be pretty prohibitive.

I do have some friends flying in from Warsaw this summer. I wonder what it would cost to add it to their checked baggage. No, better not think of it, wife would beat me to a pulp.


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#3937545 - 04/10/14 10:16 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Shipping was expensive, sure, but less than a quarter the cost of the pedals. If you can afford the pedals you can afford the shipping. Whole thing was less than I paid for the warthog, and far better built.

No knock on the hog... It's a great piece of kit, especially with the extension. But there's just no comparison in terms of build quality. Moving the pedals is like working a fine watch.


Hardware: Asus Sabertooth Z87 - Intel 4670K @ 4.4 - 16GB RAM - EVGA Titan - Old Asus 26" 19x12 LCD - bunch of drives.

Sim Toys: Warthog - 8cm Simpit Hog extension - TIR5 - CH Quadrant - Slaw Device rudder pedals - Obutto R3v
#3937906 - 04/11/14 04:11 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Capt_Hook]  
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Originally Posted By: Capt_Hook
... It's a great piece of kit, especially with the extension. But there's just no comparison in terms of build quality. Moving the pedals is like working a fine watch.


I couldn't agree more smile

#3938114 - 04/12/14 02:16 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Have had it for more than a month... Couldn't be happier... Build quality is top notch, and it's so smooth and rugged.

It's also very customizable: The strength of both rudder and pedals, overall width, pedals tilt, and even the length of the pedals can be adjusted.

Here are some salivating photos...







#3938167 - 04/12/14 07:11 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Flight simulator porn smile

Nice shots Recoilfx, really show the pedals off well.

#3938569 - 04/13/14 08:51 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Very, very nice! smile

#3938580 - 04/13/14 10:29 AM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Nice pedals, nice shots!:)

#3938693 - 04/13/14 04:05 PM Re: Rudder Pedals ( like BF109F) [Re: Slaw]  
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Beautiful!
You're not making it easy for me! What I would really like to see is a back to back review between these and the crosswinds...

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