Thanks to Ken for the review!

http://www.simhq.com/hardware/saitek-x-55-rhino-hotas-review.html

Pre-order link:

The X-55 is available for pre-order on Amazon

Heh, just wait for the weekend! MAYBE even tomorrow for an update in the drivers and calibration application!

Film at eleven...

Ok that 375g torque to twist. Is that gram force millimeter, gram force centimeter or gram force meter? Because it matters.

This was the complete answer I got from Saitek:



That said, I will ATTEMPT to get an inch pound torque wrench on the stick and measure myself. The current spring (stick) refers to the blue one installed when I picked it up in California.

I'm going with gram-force meter based on THIS

Thanks for the article!

sorry but I think the review is so far below the usual SimHQ standard, where is the precision tests?!

No worries, what in particular would you like tested? Unfortunately, using the Windows Calibration "Wizard" isn't all that precise. Once the new drivers and calibration application is released I'll be sure to update my findings.

the usual tests like in warthog 65f ch comparison article

also need more detailed photos, in depth explanation about the buttons hats switches, and the usual gaming experience...

Well,

Edit: I'm not Joe

As for programming capabilities, as stated, nothing has changed other than the ability to manipulate axis curve settings in the H.U.D. software. If you are familure with Saitek's programming capabilities, there's no difference between H.U.D. and SST as stated in my conclusion.

I do not own a Warthog.

Comparing to CH, well, time will tell. I've had my FighterStick for 13 years now. Will the X-55 hold up mechanically/electrically? We'll see.

Programming, NOT to be or sound bias, but, there is STILL no better programming than Control Manager v4.55 (CH Products).

Detailed photos? More details on HATs and switches? Gaming experience? Sure, why not. I'll do some more playing with it over the weekend AFTER the new calibration application comes out. That said, initially, in FSX, in an F/A 18, going into burner took a few tries at "calibrating" the throttle in the Windows Calibration "Wizard".

I don't know about that. If it really is 375 gf-m that means it takes 32.55 lbs to move the stick an inch. If it's gram-force centimeter then it's .3255 pound-force inch which is more believable.

32.55 lbs INCH, not Foot

Thanks for the review, Ghost. I have both a full CH Products setup (CH forever!) and the Warthog, so this really Saitek offering really doesn't interest me much, but one thing I am curious about is the responsiveness of the hat switches.

I know you mentioned they had a longer throw than you are used to, but are they different from the Saitek X65? I used to have the X65, but I found the hat switches to be rather sub-par in terms of feel and responsiveness.

To put it another way, there is the very tactile response of the CH Products hat switches and then there is what is on the Saitek X65, which isn't very tactile. Kind of like the difference between mechanical keyboard keys and membrane keyboard keys Are the hat switches better on the X55 than the X65 in terms of tactile/responsive feel?

Tactile feel of both the X-55 and X-65 HATs are from what I F.E.E.L. are the same. You being a CH kinda guy know that the throw of the CH HATs are MUCH shorter than the X-65.

I'm a little confused. Are there or are there not throttle detents for idle and afterburner?

Thanks Ken.

I am having issue with my Throttle not reading in the Saitek software for the X-55. No button presses or throttle movement will register. I have reinstalled it and still the same. But here is the kicker, windows sees it and reads it. Warthunder the throttle will work same for the Stick but no buttons can be programed. Saitek support still hasnt responded and its been over a week. Any ideas?

So, if you're looking for a Warthog for comparison, maybe we should see about doing Memorial Day in Raleigh and trying out that X-55 with my rig... Just saying, since I'm somewhat local...

Ghost,

Good descriptive review.

But I think you could describe the "F.E.E.L." of using the joystick in games.
For example, my cup of tea is WWII CFS, so what is really important is if the
oystick really make easy put "gunsight piper over the bandit".

Thank you.

Sokol1

You are correct Rogue. There are no detents (as stated) for idle or AB. There are center detents however for the two rotaries on the right throttle.

Sokol1:

That's why I found the red spring to be more to my liking. I F.E.E.L. it's closest to what I F.E.E.L. with the CH Products FighterStick.

Strange. If Windows is seeing it and you can calibrate in the Windows Calibration "Wizard" <- (joke) the H.U.D. should see the throttle.

Perhaps when the new drivers and calibration application are released (I'm told on Tuesday now) it'll "fix" itself? We can hope.