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#3838198 - 09/17/13 01:53 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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#3838304 - 09/17/13 06:00 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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CA could use some terrain better suited to it. Right now you feel like you're a mini camera on a giant model board most of the time.




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#3840061 - 09/21/13 11:21 AM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: 159th_Viper]  
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Originally Posted By: 159th_Viper
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The question is will those maps be available to us.


No. They are the basis of commercial contracts.

In any event, they are minuscule and only suitable for CA and limited Helo Ops.


I wont be too jealous then biggrin
Thanks for the info by the way.

#3840133 - 09/21/13 03:23 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Pizzicato]  
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Originally Posted By: Pizzicato
If that's where the money is, who can blame them?


How about the people who already purchased Nevada from ED months and months and months ago and have not had our product delivered? Are we allowed to blame them or is not ever getting what you paid for selfishly not supporting the illustrious company enough?

#3840135 - 09/21/13 03:31 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted By: Frederf
Originally Posted By: Pizzicato
If that's where the money is, who can blame them?


How about the people who already purchased Nevada from ED months and months and months ago and have not had our product delivered? Are we allowed to blame them or is not ever getting what you paid for selfishly not supporting the illustrious company enough?


You should ask for a refund.

Nate

#3840306 - 09/21/13 10:26 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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I don't know I'd get the value of Nevada separated from the rest of A10C, but if ED offered $10 back to forfeit my rights to Nevada if/when it comes I'd take it. I find the company's inability to deliver slightly annoying but understandable; now less-palatable that I learn other customers are getting priority. The lack of caring about the breach of trust and even hostility toward those who have the audacity to dislike being misused is what's so nauseating.

Some companies I can invest in for future developments, ED is off that list after one too many bounced checks. The products they actually make are fine and quite valuable and I wouldn't hesitate purchasing anything in the actual here and now. I'm quite immune to buying 'future dreams and promises' for some time now.

#3840318 - 09/21/13 10:48 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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I think it's more the Hyperbole used that some find nauseating, not the point you are making.

You'll get Nevada, sooner that you'd think too.

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#3840333 - 09/21/13 11:32 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted By: Frederf
I don't know I'd get the value of Nevada separated from the rest of A10C, but if ED offered $10 back to forfeit my rights to Nevada if/when it comes I'd take it. I find the company's inability to deliver slightly annoying but understandable; now less-palatable that I learn other customers are getting priority. The lack of caring about the breach of trust and even hostility toward those who have the audacity to dislike being misused is what's so nauseating.


Eh?

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#3840591 - 09/22/13 06:06 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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Indeed extreme views instead of reasonable and understanding discourse sums it up. Those that pitch an extreme fit are eye rolling-ly annoying but I understand. It's the company defense drones' behavior that I find so bewildering. It's one thing to give the disappointed customer some perspective but I've seen mental gymnastics employed to actually try to convince said customer that not only is their position out of proportion to the situation (granted) but any amount of discontent is uncalled for (blech). Also, sooner than I'd have thought would require a time machine.

Other customers like private contacts with militaries or companies.

#3840596 - 09/22/13 06:14 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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Well now that this thread is totally derailed, back to the OP

I don't see a big difference between the current terrain engine and EDGE...is it just higher poly-count and higher-rez textures? Is the performance better with these improvements? From the vids nothing really looked drastically different except the water and maybe the building types

Just curious

#3919477 - 03/03/14 03:17 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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Dmitry has put a new "EDGE" military video, impresive quality.... can be something into DCS: W some far far away day?.

http://youtu.be/2g8eDfL2fBE


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#3919509 - 03/03/14 04:08 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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Woah, looks fantastic!

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#3919517 - 03/03/14 04:13 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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5FPS anyone? rolleyes

But if 1 day we get DCSW to looks like that with decent FPS then bananadance


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#3919534 - 03/03/14 04:29 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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My understanding is that EDGE is a two pronged effort:

1: Better looking terrain (sharper mesh resolution, textures, more ambient life, etc)

2. Better overall engine optimization to leverage newer technology such as multi-core CPUs

And yes, it'll probably still drag modern systems to their knees when it comes out. In fact, I hope it does. By giving us such high end scenery options, the sim builds in some "future proofing."

In any event, I believe the DCS WWII folks are using EDGE for their new terrain, so we know it's tied to at least 1 consumer based effort.

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#3919535 - 03/03/14 04:32 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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EDGE is purely a rendering engine for terrain/world. I dont know how much point to will be addressed with EDGE alone except for maybe taking some of the weight off of the CPU.

#3919724 - 03/03/14 07:38 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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#3919870 - 03/04/14 12:57 AM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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Looked damned nice

#3920861 - 03/05/14 10:39 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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When EDGE is released for DCS with its SDK we could possibly expect to see maps like that when people make addon maps.



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#3920870 - 03/05/14 11:08 PM Re: EDGE comercial / military products [Re: Pizzicato]  
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Originally Posted By: Pizzicato
Originally Posted By: kestrel79
Maybe that's why Nevada is taking so long, they are working on these commercial products first since that's where the $ is at.


You can pretty much guarantee that that's what's been happening. It's already been acknowledged that EDGE is on v4 and is used in 3 separate commercial products.

If that's where the money is, who can blame them? We seem to be a smaller and smaller community, aggressively demanding more and more expensively complex products that drive us deeper and deeper into niche territory...

...and then we refuse to buy them until they go on sale for $20.

I wouldn't bother with us, either. biggrin


I agree for the most part, but with DCS: World being on Steam now, I think the potential for this sim to grow is more likely now than ever before. I think if DCS: World's EDGE can start to compete with rendering engines like War Thunder's, that alone would get more people to try the sim out. That, and smart scaling for units in the game, so you can actually see them wink

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