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#3904297 - 01/30/14 02:12 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF ***** [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Since the devs clearly indicated that they will not be working on new features, the historical aces option is a moot subject.

So, for now, the message is very clear.... just enjoy the sim "as is" until new addons become available.

#3904407 - 01/30/14 06:16 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I'm more than happy with the sim "as is", though I am looking forward to seeing what they do with the Albs FMs. They've already put out more patches with new features and fixes in 2 months than I would have expected from them in a year. No complaints here.

Gotha's and Zepps are hopefully on their way now. Happy to pay for them too. salute


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#3904504 - 01/30/14 08:33 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Hellshade]  
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Originally Posted By: Hellshade

And I would even be okay with that, but the problem (in my personal opinion) is you end up with skies in 1917 and 1918 that are quite empty of historical Aces, because most of them have probably been shot down by enemy AI fighters, blown up by flak, crashed due to mechanical failures, etc. They die long before you get the chance to meet them. I'm not sure which would be more frustrating...killing the same Ace several times and he keeps coming back or never getting to meet any in the skies at all because they all died due to AI fights you were never a part of.


Does anyone remember a once fairly famous sim called Red Baron II? I do believe you could permanently down an ace and also loose aces from your own squadron, - did this seem like a major flaw to those you who played it?

There is a 'player cannot die' option. I for one would never use this! But because it is an OPTION which I can choose to use or not I have absolutely no objection to it at all. The 'HA can die' option would add to this wonderful sim by giving a player more choice of how to play it.

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#3904510 - 01/30/14 08:37 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: yaan98]  
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Originally Posted By: yaan98
Since the devs clearly indicated that they will not be working on new features, the historical aces option is a moot subject.


Really? I'm sure I read somewhere they would add no new features after 1.15. Is a new option in the same league as the work put into a new feature? Is adding a command to turn on/off the code that stops historical ace death that major an undertaking?

Originally Posted By: yaan98

So, for now, the message is very clear.... just enjoy the sim "as is" until new addons become available.


Yann, with the greatest respect sir, if one of the actual devs does say 'no we're not doing that' then fair enough, I would accept it.

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#3904543 - 01/30/14 09:19 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: JamesL]  
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Originally Posted By: JamesL


Yann, with the greatest respect sir, if one of the actual devs does say 'no we're not doing that' then fair enough, I would accept it.


Yep, if it's not already a part of 1.15, then no more....

You must have missed reading this post. See post# 3903729 here:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3903729/Re_Spot_view_friendly_and_enem#Post3903729

To me, this is very clear wording from Pol.

#3904564 - 01/30/14 09:54 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I missed that post but I have to agree. It sure looks clear. Not like we didn't get plenty of new features for free in the 14 updates they have already released. Hopefully a FM alteration in 1.15 and that'll be it. Can't say I blame them for focusing on Add-ons and any necessary bug fixes from this point forward.


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#3904569 - 01/30/14 10:05 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Aces can die Add-on... i would pay smile

#3904602 - 01/30/14 11:09 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: karnak]  
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Originally Posted By: karnak
Aces can die Add-on... i would pay smile


This made me chuckle...the "Aces Can Die" Add-on Pack smile2

I'd buy it too, Karnak. Might be the fair thing to do if it's a good bit of work to make it happen. Sometimes what seems like a simple feature can be huge behind the scenes.


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#3904650 - 01/31/14 12:59 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: karnak]  
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Originally Posted By: karnak
Aces can die Add-on... i would pay smile


I too would pay for the option.

#3904673 - 01/31/14 01:47 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Wodin]  
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Originally Posted By: Wodin
Originally Posted By: karnak
Aces can die Add-on... i would pay smile


I too would pay for the option.


Ditto.

#3904803 - 01/31/14 08:44 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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There is a screen that says "Machine Allocated". This is ok but below it it says:

"Principle Role:"

Now it's ok to have principles (If you don't like mine I have others) biggrin

But please correct the spelling to "Principal" - it would not be difficult.


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#3904912 - 01/31/14 03:33 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Wodin]  
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Originally Posted By: Wodin
Originally Posted By: karnak
Aces can die Add-on... i would pay smile


I too would pay for the option.


I would as well. Love the name, too. yep


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#3904915 - 01/31/14 03:36 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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If they do it, I'd be kinda partial to "Mortal Legends" Add-on pack.


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#3904922 - 01/31/14 03:44 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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It's supposed to be an accurate historical portrayal of air combat in WWI... No way would I pay to shoot down historical aces and kill them before history dictates they should die... Oh wait... you guys are joking right?
lol... silly me smile

#3904926 - 01/31/14 03:54 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I'm not joking, and don't call me Shirley! biggrin

But seriously, allowing HA to die on their historical date, and continuing to have as many lives as a cat until then, gives WOFF an unhistorical vibe. At least in that aspect only.

I understand why the devs chose to go that route. I just don't agree with it. YMMV.

And, I would pay for the WOFF: Mortal Legends Special Edition.


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#3904933 - 01/31/14 04:05 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Yeah, I'd pay for WOFF: Mortal Legends Special Edition, but only if we also have the option to fly over the ace's funeral and drop a wreath from our planes winkngrin

It shouldn't be too hard to implement... slap together a 3d model, couple of textures and wreath.xdp... exitstageleft

#3904946 - 01/31/14 04:20 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I'd pay for whatever they do just to support development. Why not Mortal Legends.. It could add some fresh experience. Even though I'm still getting full pants of fun every time I go out there. Yesterday I literally jumped in my chair when my observer started to fire out of the blue while we were flying in absolutely serene and gorgeous skies.


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#3904998 - 01/31/14 05:36 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Mortal Legends Special Edition - Good title. I too would pay for this and quick because Grasshoff, the only ace in my squadron, has now survived being downed 8 times!!! What's more he's always up the next day ready for more, what a guy! But my comrades are disturbed, they are beginning to attribute supernatural powers to him.....meanwhile the Quartermaster is mad as Grasshoff has wreaked the squadron's entire aircraft reserve and is now starting on the rest!

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#3905083 - 01/31/14 08:24 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Hmm...I thought when an an Ace was shot down they are out of action for a little bit?

One issue I see if HA's are mortal is that you could get to a stage (and possibly quickly) that there are none left...I think if they do go mortal they should only be able to be killed if the player shoots them down..and maybe Ace's in whatever Sqd your in be mortal too..though not sur eon this.

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#3905088 - 01/31/14 08:35 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Wodin]  
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Originally Posted By: Wodin
One issue I see if HA's are mortal is that you could get to a stage (and possibly quickly) that there are none left...


That's exactly what I have been saying Wodin. Very quickly you end up with empty skies. Richtofen gets shot down by enemy AI in 1916 and so you never get the chance to meet him...or any of the other Aces. By 1917 or 1918 the skies are empty of great aces.

Well let's see what the Devs cook up for us next. They have done a mighty bang up job of adding great things to WOFF - both through free patches and DLC. Patch 1.15 was just released and they've got some kind of Extended 3rd Party Mission Types for the Workshop. Sounds like lots of interesting possibilities there.


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