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#4327656 - 01/10/17 06:18 PM Re: S-300PS/PMU (SA-10B Grumble) ***** [Re: Hpasp]  
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S-350 Vityaz, planned successor of the S-300PS.



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#4327737 - 01/10/17 10:10 PM Re: S-300PS/PMU (SA-10B Grumble) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Amazing info as always :o

If you still need info on the early Mim-104, I can ask around the defence department and see what i can do

#4327839 - 01/11/17 10:57 AM Re: S-300PS/PMU (SA-10B Grumble) [Re: Vaderini]  
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TM 9-1430-600-20-2 Engagement Control Station second volume is available on Google Books.

https://books.google.hu/books?id=LDgYAAAAYAAJ&pg

The first volume would be a great help.


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#4327946 - 01/11/17 08:11 PM Re: S-300PS/PMU (SA-10B Grumble) [Re: Hpasp]  
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5th S-400 regiment is fielded around Moscow...



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#4328360 - 01/13/17 05:30 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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S-300 history-III

After a ten years break, Chinese funding made the reopen of S-300 production line possible.
In 2004 China ordered 16 batteries of S-300PMU2 Favorit (SA-20B) in two batches, for a total of $1,980 million.
Algeria paid $500 million for four systems, probably these were originally produced for Iran, but delivery was banned due to sanctions.
The modernized plant delivered the first batch of 20 export versions between 2007 and 2009.

The 6 channel system had an effective range of 200km using the 48N6E2 missiles.

In 2011, 2 systems were delivered to Azerbaijan for $300 million. They are based East and North of Baku.
From 2016, the previously suspended Iranian delivery is also started, worth of $800 million.




From 2015, upgrades of the Russian S-300PM to S-300PM2 Favorit-S (SA-20B) system using the 200km ranged 48N6D missile is also started.

Beside producing the export Favorits, the first two pieces of S-400 Triumph (SA-21) were delivered in 2007, and 2009 to the Russian PVO.
The 12 channel system had an effective range of 250km using the 48N6DM missiles.
After the export Favorit delivery completed, production of the Triumph was accelerated.
According to the plans, till 2020 56 systems will be delivered, replacing all S-300PT versions.



As of 2016, 26 S-400 are fielded.

Expected in 2017, the 40N6 missiles becomes available, with 380km range, and 4 more systems are fielded, 2 for Moscow (one already arrived), and 2 for the Northern Fleet (most probably at Severodinsk).

Export is expected to start after 2020, China is negotiating 6 systems for $3,000 million.
India also interested to buy 5 systems for $2,500 million.

Next episode will describe current PVO situation, and plans for replacing the elderly S-300PS systems.

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#4328384 - 01/13/17 08:22 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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Great concentrated information Hpasp.

Where in this history would Armenian and Azerbaijani S-300s appear? As far as I know Armenia had a older, apparently S-300PS system and recently got a S-300PMU1 or -2. This was apparently to get on pair with Azerbaijan who got at least one brand new S-300PMU2. Little note, given the good relations between Azerbaijan and Israel its possible that they had the chance to take a look at or even train again the S-300PMU2 and pass the info to the US and hence NATO. However I have doubts whether Russian intel and influence on Azerbaijan would allow this to happen.

A few more details: Apparently East German air defense troops were not aware of a operational S-300 there as far as I know. Either its was still packed before being send back to the Soviet Union or some secretive unit operated it in its short presence there.

Iranian S-300PMU2's use the command post shown in your S-400 illustration. Given that Russians said that original 2007 were reconfigured and sold to other costumers and the 2016 batch is said to be newly produced, could the Iranian PMU2 configuration be different to the standard S-300PMU2?

#4328389 - 01/13/17 09:03 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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A few more details: Apparently East German air defense troops were not aware of a operational S-300 there as far as I know. Either its was still packed before being send back to the Soviet Union or some secretive unit operated it in its short presence there.

I knew it otherwise.
They had the standard curricula, than live shooting at Ashuluk.
The systems arrived and were temporary based at az S-200 site, till their fixed firing position was built. (visible on Google Earth)

They had 3 wartime firing position selected at the northern seashore.

Iranian S-300PMU2's use the command post shown in your S-400 illustration.

Could you post a picture of it?



Last edited by Hpasp; 01/13/17 09:46 PM.

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#4328514 - 01/14/17 05:03 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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So East German S-300 went operational with East German troops for a sort period of time (months) according to your sources.

Here is the Iranian S-300 command post which is not a traditional S-300PMU2 component. I wonder whether Iran requested a modified -PMU2 variant from the Russians after the possibility that Azerbaijani S-300PMU2 could be compromised to Israel.

http://defence.pk/attachments/636100570130544712_b-jpg.337663/

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#4328518 - 01/14/17 05:26 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Patarames]  
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As the 54K6 was last produced 8 years ago, I would rather assume that only the newer 55K6 were in production, so both Azerbaijan and Iran received it. Anyhow, the main detection component of the command post is the RLO, and both Azerbaijan and Iran received the 64N6E2.

But thanks for your valuable observations, I corrected the text and the drawing.




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#4329055 - 01/17/17 01:03 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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#4329984 - 01/20/17 06:14 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Muggs]  
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So many beautiful videos are released, that Im almost creating an S-400 simulator.
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(just a joke)

Beautifully visible the 12 target channel operating buttons, left of the screen.
Channel 3 and 5 is tracking a target.
Channel 5 is ready for launch. (green button)



PUSK on channel 5!


Last edited by Hpasp; 01/20/17 06:18 PM.

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#4330146 - 01/21/17 07:16 AM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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#4330360 - 01/22/17 09:47 AM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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S-300 History-IV

As of today, the Russian Air Defense is based on the S-300 family (26 S-400, 24 S-300PM, 31 S-300PS, 4 S-300PT, few S-300V):



Major cities
Moscow; 9 S-400, 16 S-300PM, S-300V
Leningrad; 4 S-300PM, 8 S-300PS

Pacific Fleet
Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky; 3 S-400
Vladivostok; 2 S-400, S-300V
Nakhodka; 2 S-400

Northern Fleet
Murmansk; 2 S-400
Severomorsk; 4 S-300PT

Black Sea Fleet
Novorossiysk; 1 S-400
Feodosiya (Crimea); 1 S-400
Sevastopol (Crimea); 1 S-400 (planned)

Airforce Bases
Olenegorsk; 2 S-300PM
Engels; 2 S-300PS
Hmeymim (Syria); 1 S-400

Territories
Kaliningrad; 2 S-400, 4 S-300PS
Sokhumi, Abkhazia; 2 S-300PS
Gyumri, Armenia; S-300V

Important Industrial cities
Novosibirsk (Novosibirsk Aircraft Production Association: Su-34); 2 S-400
Rostov (Rosvertol: Mi-35, Mi-28, Mi-26); 2 S-300PM
Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association: Su-27SM/SKM, Su-33, Su-27KUB, PAK-FA); 3 S-300PS
Yekaterinburg (VSMPO titanium plant); 2 S-300PS
Samara (Kuznetsov Design Bureau, Progress Rocket Space Centre); 2 S-300PS
Voronezh (Voronezh Aircraft Production Association: Il-148); 2 S-300PS
Khabarovsk; 2 S-300PS
Irkutsk (Irkut Corporation: Su-30); 2 S-300PS
Nazarovo (RUSAL aluminium factory); 2 S-300PS




Last edited by Hpasp; 01/22/17 10:02 AM.

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#4330468 - 01/22/17 06:51 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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"S-400 AD missiles being loaded into containers. Seems there are not many pics of the procedure v @tvcrussia"

https://twitter.com/rss_40/status/822909458938531840

#4331720 - 01/26/17 05:05 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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Can you tell from these pics, the azimuth beam-width of the S-400 system?
just use some math winkngrin




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#4339280 - 02/21/17 04:48 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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Best information so far about the V-500 missile of the S-300PT/PS/PMU systems.
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Download material from the bottom of this page...
http://historykpvo-2.ucoz.ru/index/0-13

... direct link:
https://yadi.sk/i/yKVPTK9PscdYx







Last edited by Hpasp; 02/21/17 04:51 PM.

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#4339424 - 02/22/17 09:23 AM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp


Click to reveal..






Maybe with a kill zone rings would be better?

#4341520 - 03/02/17 04:15 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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Farokh must be proud... wink

#4343661 - 03/11/17 02:14 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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Last edited by Hpasp; 03/11/17 02:22 PM.

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#4352127 - 04/19/17 05:13 PM Re: S-300, S-350, S-400 [Re: Hpasp]  
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Three Iranian S-300PMU2 battery at the same place...
rolleyes

[Linked Image]

Last edited by Hpasp; 04/19/17 07:46 PM.

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