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#3899379 - 01/21/14 11:56 PM Getting back into the Viper  
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Hello everyone,

Well I am wanting to get back into this great sim. I need to know what I need to download. I already have BMS 3.2, what mods should I get. I also need to know if there is a good X52 profile out there. I have the original manual for falcon 4.0, is it worthless now?

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#3899406 - 01/22/14 01:02 AM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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Welcome back to the hobby! I would suggest that you download stock BMS and all 7 updates. I also suggest you download the Israel Theater 0.99 and patch, it's quite good. I've not tried any mods, so I can't speak to that.

As for X52 profiles, I've attached mine. I like it, but you may want something different? I try to not rely on the SST software outside of programming the slider and changing the ministick and mouse button and instead rely on BMS and Direct X shifting. You lose the mode shifting but I think it is more reliable.



Hopefully this gets you pointed in productive directions and I am sure more experienced hands will give you excellent advice.

#3899578 - 01/22/14 08:15 AM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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http://www.benchmarksims.org the latest is 4.32 with 7 updates, definitely do a fresh install.

There are also lots of resources for X-52 profiles there. The F4 manual isn't entirely worthless, but you'll want to read up on the included BMS manuals in the /Docs folder

#3900380 - 01/23/14 05:14 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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Originally Posted By: RockEye
I already have BMS 3.2, what mods should I get.


Israel theatre, Balkans theatre, and Red Flag/Falcon Online if you want to do any PvP.

The original Falcon 4.0 manual isn't useless in the sense that the theories taught in there (cornerspeed, CCIP/CCRP, ground radar, etc.) are still in use, but obviously the keystrokes/key combos may be different. There is a Dash-1 manual included in your BMS install and is a very useful read.

Welcome back and good luck!


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#3900568 - 01/23/14 10:45 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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I have gone to the BMS website and I can't log in. I have registered in the past but no joy. It wont send me an email and I have re-registered and I still cant get a confirmation email either.

#3900754 - 01/24/14 10:56 AM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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Originally Posted By: RockEye
I have gone to the BMS website and I can't log in. I have registered in the past but no joy. It wont send me an email and I have re-registered and I still cant get a confirmation email either.


What username did you try? I'll post about it in this thread where others mentioned similar issues.

#3900790 - 01/24/14 12:52 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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Originally Posted By: RockEye
I have gone to the BMS website and I can't log in. I have registered in the past but no joy. It wont send me an email and I have re-registered and I still cant get a confirmation email either.


I also had this some time ago and figured out, that this happens if you only Register but never write into the Forums. If you make one post this should not happen again. I registered already 3 times but now it still works. Hope this helps.
Roland


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#3906582 - 02/03/14 09:00 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: Xoxen]  
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Strange benchmark has always worked properly, may be there have experienced some problems.

#3906863 - 02/04/14 02:07 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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sorry to hijack, but is it possible to have, ala DCS, a modifier button witohut using Saitek SST?

I'm trying to replace what I can about the A-10 HOTAS, but I don't know how in Falcon


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#3906993 - 02/04/14 04:49 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: Genbrien]  
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I am assuming you mean designating a shift button to get dual functionality from a button or hat in BMS WITHOUT the use of SST? The short answer is yes, by using Direct X shifting. A guide for doing just this can be found here: http://www.f4bms.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2456

#3908066 - 02/06/14 06:39 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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wow.....

just plugged my wireless Xbox360 controller and now the game dont rememeber EVERY buttons that it was assaigned.... banghead
Even upplugged it do the same...

so tired of this... sigh pitchafit

EDIT: it seems that ingame, when I press a joystick button it correspond to a letter...

Like on my X52, now, when I press ''FIRE A'' it registered that I'm pressing A on the keyboard.

Right hat is now CTRL+3 loll....

WTF?! mycomputer

and yes I restarted my PC

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#3908198 - 02/06/14 09:27 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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Yup, BMS can/will get confused if you start it without the same USB ID arrangement as the last time. For me it loses the axes, but not the buttons. I've become quick at reassigning the 8-10 axes on my controllers before a flight if necessary. The buttons stay though since they are defined in the .key file.

I don't know your control setup but for joystick to act like keyboard is strange. Are you using SST profile which pretends to be keyboard? Maybe your keyboard is acting like a joystick?

#3908218 - 02/06/14 10:12 PM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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Always used to have that problem. Setup your controllers again, get in a few flights to double-check, then exit the sim, go to your FalconBMS/user/config directory and make these two flies read-only: axismapping.dat and joystick.cal

Any messups from this time on would not affect your controller settings. Note that if you wish to change anything or if doing an update, you will want to disable read-only.

For me, my problem was that I use a TARGET profile when I fly. If I start BMS without starting up the TARGET profile, everything goes haywire. The trick above prevents this from happening, so I can start up the game without worry.

Hope that helps!


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#3908303 - 02/07/14 01:48 AM Re: Getting back into the Viper [Re: RockEye]  
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I recheked and it did not overwrite anything. I even took the copy I did yesterday and still won't work...

And it's not a Falcon4 problem as it's doing the same thing with DCS... so it's a Windows problem....

I tried with SST profile on/off, even closed SST but no changed


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