#3895518 - 01/15/14 01:54 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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#3895551 - 01/15/14 02:52 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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Very much looking forward to this!
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#3895881 - 01/16/14 01:44 AM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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I don't see any way to avoid buying this on day 1.
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#3895886 - 01/16/14 01:48 AM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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And I know this is the wrong thread, but damn I can't believe how awesome it would be to have an F-4 modeled to that level to fly against the MiG-21 in...
I could probably just clear my hard drive of other sims at that point.
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#3895956 - 01/16/14 04:01 AM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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And I know this is the wrong thread, but damn I can't believe how awesome it would be to have an F-4 modeled to that level to fly against the MiG-21 in...
I could probably just clear my hard drive of other sims at that point. +1 DCS: Epic Duels Vol 1: MiG 21 vs F4 Phantom DCS: Epic Duels Vol 2: F86 Sabre vs MiG 15 DCS: Epic Duels Vol 3: P-51D vs Su-27
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#3896184 - 01/16/14 03:19 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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While the idea is good in theory, in practice the F-4 relied on its missiles and the DCS modeling of them would be such a focus that I think the forums would melt down. I do want to see the F-4 some day, but there are literally a dozen possible models and if you want more than FC3-level it's going to take a lot of work for each one.
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#3896501 - 01/16/14 11:43 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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Historically, the MiG-21 relied on its missiles as well... not to mention every fighter but the P-51D presently flyable to any extent in DCS and/or FC. Inability to model radar and missiles 100% correctly has never stopped ED before :P
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#3896599 - 01/17/14 03:19 AM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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Heh. Good points.
Ok, let me have the F-4J model then, and just get it as close as you can for a release in, say, 1 year.
I'd prefer that than waiting 5-10 years for a "perfect" model. Of course, my opinion doesn't really count.
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#3896803 - 01/17/14 01:42 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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Well, TBH none of our opinions count. It's the opinions of the ones making the planes as far as what they think will sell well, what they can do, and what they want to do.
I'm not sure if I'd prefer a USN or USAF F-4, but I do agree a well done F-4 of any type would be welcome. An S model might be best as far as fitting in with the 80s/90s era of most of the current plane set (even if it's horribly outmatched dogfighting a 27 or 29) but I'd go for an E or J as well.
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#3897050 - 01/17/14 07:18 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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#3897052 - 01/17/14 07:22 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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A6. I know, I know. But it's really my wet dream. Wet as in taking off from a carrier in the kiddle of an ocean.
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#3897096 - 01/17/14 08:21 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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I thought a 105 was in development, along with a 104. Unless one or both have been abandoned since?
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#3897121 - 01/17/14 08:39 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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104 was abandoned some time ago but apparently the 3D model was gifted to someone else.
105... I'd like it but can't remember for the life of mine if it was announced or just considered.
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#3897126 - 01/17/14 08:41 PM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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Well, upcoming models are announced with great fanfare but their demise has the volume of a mouse fart most of the time, so unsurprising I hadn't heard about the 104. Too bad.
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#3897384 - 01/18/14 07:43 AM
Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed
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An F-105, A-4, or A-6 would make an acceptable substitute for the F-4 if the F-4 can't be done.
I hope someone is taking notes!
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Exodus
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