BF4 has to be the worst game launch and weeks after launch as they still can't fix it (actually they may have but I'm pretty jaded towards it now) and now they can't even run the Premium 2x XP events!



This will be the last BF game I buy. A total sham and waste of money.

I lost all interest in the game, I went back to ArmA =/

I'm guessing the postponing of the 2XP event had something to do with the DDOS attack which knocked out everything for a day.

As far as worst game launch... I don't think so. One of the highest-profile, but certainly not the worst. Simcity still takes that crown, and Rome II isn't far behind. Both of those games are fundamentally broken, and unfixable.

Oh, there have been worse releases than this. Anyone recall Cliffs of Dover?

I would have to say the launch of the PC game went pretty well for me. Yes, there were server side problems and there some minor graphics and sound issues, but none were crippling in any respect. More annoying then anything else. I have been playing regularly since launch and even those minor issues seem to have gone away.

While I do agree that EA needs to provide much better pre-launch quality control, I do not see the launch of Battlefield 4 as anywhere near the "worst" game launch. I can think of at two that were far worse...as in could not even play the game at all.

Well, since you haven't experienced the problems that have been plaguing the game you probably aren't in the best of position to counter-argue the point. The game launch was a disaster, no and, ifs or buts.

I guess if I were on the receiving end of it..then yes. But to assume that it was that bad just because you have had problems does not a bad game launch make. I had problems with BF3 but it was not because of the launch...entirely. It was many because my computer was beginning to age at the time and it just would not run correctly. I got a new upgraded computer and all my problems went away. I am not suggesting that you need a new computer. What I am saying is what I have found in the past FOR ME.

I also play in a large gaming guild. Yes, we have had a couple of people that have had issues with BF4. The percentage is under 10%...probably closer to 5% and again it is their hardware that was the culprit in most cases....not all...but most.

So, to say it is one of the worst launches as a blanket statement that everyone should just agree to is simply not correct.

Then my good sir, do explain why the entire DICE studio took all their people off every other project to fix the game AND they are even getting sued because of the state the game was in? Both are unprecedented moves. So all that "I didn't have any" and "Oh my friend over here didn't have any" - The game was massively plagued by issues whether you like it or not.

So again, trying to make this some rare individual occurrence and then it possibly can't be a bad launch, just no.

Yeah, like saying it is perfect and has no problems at all....wouldn't you agree?

*Shudders from the Memory*

Don't believe I ever said it had none. I think I mentioned server issues, random sound issues and some minor graphics issues. However, it seems for me and my mates, most if not all have been addressed. Anything done now would be considered just improving what it already there.

In both cases, it was a matter of INVESTORS claiming that EA over hyped the game in order to jack up EA stock prices. Putting DICE's entire studio on the project to "fix" BF4 is more of a PR move then a real occurrence. I can assure you that not every project and person working on those projects is looking a BF4..it would not be practical. But, it sounds good on paper. And again, I did not say they did not have issues at launch. What I said was that not all people experienced issues if even the same issues. That denotes the disparity of the various systems that people are attempting to use to play the game...from XB360, XB1, PS3, PS4 and the many configurations of PC's. If many can play the games and yet many can't there has to be a reason beyond just the game code. That does not mean that EA did not over hype WHO could or could not play the game. That I think IS the problem...not the issue of a bad launch.

And believe me, I am NOT a supporter of EA. I have railed against EA's poor track record when it comes to quality control. However, I think that fair must be fair.

I'm sorry but using "Not everyone experienced the issues" as an argument is not kosher. Because by that standard, no game is ever broken nor plagued at launch. You will always find denial-Dennis who haven't played the game enough or doesn't register the issues then somehow stumbles onto a forum to proclaim "The game is fine, I don't know what you guys are talking about!". Also just shooting everything down as a PR move is just desperate.

The game was broken whether you like it or not, whether you somehow magically managed to avoid all the game's massive issues which I assure you, you didn't. You just didn't register half of them because you think it boiled down to crashes. "Broken" doesn't just mean bad performance and straight up unplayable - There's about a 1000 items under that umbrella that doesn't stop people from playing but hurt the core gameplay.

Even the client-side hit detection have had massive issues that EVERYONE were effected by. However you can easily find the usual casual / rubbish players who doesn't register that because "Uh we play for giggles".

And just saying you had troubles while many did not does not make the launch bad. You can believe or call it what you wish. Bottom line here is that YOU had problems that many others did not. So, for YOU the game was unacceptable. For me, not so and others. DICE has fixed most of the problems that I can see. As far as, magical hit detection issues...that has to be something that you can detect but I certainly did not. Again, things like that can be explained by your internet connection, the server you play on, your computer or any number of things. So, if I do not have those problems and you do, we will see different things.

And again I repeat, that is not to say (as I have said over and over here) that the game did not have problems at launch. If you have not been playing or attempting to play it, you probably are unaware that those issues are not longer applicable.

It pretty much looks like we are going to have to agree to disagree. I don't expect to "convert" you in any way. That was NOT my intention. My only point in posting here was to point out that NOT EVERYONE had issues with the game and that because of that fact it was not the horrid launch that some have tried to sell.

No, that can be explained the the client-side hit detection that is in shambles which they already confirmed. You also just said you couldn't detect it so you have absolutely zero grounds to stand on in that argument. As an old competitive shooter player, it can be felt and seen from a mile away.

But yes, definitely agree to disagree.

Because people who try to deny this game was a hot mess are full of #%&*$#, in my book.

Quite a statement given that you did sound a little different not so long ago yourself (for example here and here).

Quite a statement given that you did sound a little different not so long ago yourself (for example here and here).

He's got you there! You are having fun but the game is a hot mess/broken?????

That being said, just to be the Devil's Advocate, BF4 does seem to have a problem which is why I am sticking with BF3 and not forking out any money to EA....http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wall-street-taking-notice-of-battlefield-4-issues-as-ea-stock-falls/1100-6416566/

The day I let Wall Street determine what I consider to be a good or bad game is the day I stop buying and playing games.

Compared to CoD, the BF4 release was a masterpiece. Lol

There's a difference between not having many problems and being a huge dick, trying to deny the fact there ARE problems. I've spent enough time on various forums, listening to friends playing and even seeing the problems on my friend's machines and now the PS4 version - Which I played post those posts. Plus with subsequent patches I did start to see a lot of issues.

Sometimes it's okay to look past your own nose.

Just because I don't have cancer I can form a negative opinion on it.