#3809878 - 07/15/13 06:36 PM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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Yep, a very good read. Not very detailed as some would like, but it was more for the "general reader" than for rivet-counters.
Re: HARMS, obviously these are the older models. Plus his squadron did the "hard kills" which meant taking out the site as much as possible, not just disabling or suppressing the radars.
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#3810151 - 07/16/13 10:03 AM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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I finished it last week. A good read. I got the distinct impression that in the author's eyes, there are fighter pilots and then there is everyone else. I can forgive him for that though Yes. If you've ever been around many of them, that is it exactly.
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#3811015 - 07/18/13 02:09 AM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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No, "there are fighters and there are targets." They all believe that and wouldn't be in that cockpit if they didn't have that conceit. It's what makes them aggressive and sometimes slightly annoying.
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#3812205 - 07/20/13 05:32 PM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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I finished it last week. A good read. I got the distinct impression that in the author's eyes, there are fighter pilots and then there is everyone else. I can forgive him for that though Don't worry my unit thinks the same thing. There is Group and then there is the Banana Belt.
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#3822208 - 08/14/13 12:22 PM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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The decoy is a good few hundred feet behind you, yes, but remember that the missiles do not really have to hit their target. Most of them explode in proximity to their "target" so if flown correctly, the missile will actually explode a bit behind the target, just within "lethal range" of the warhead. The Viper would be a good few hundred feet further and thus would be safe, if at most most get some dents and scratches.
I do +1 for BMS though. Fun doing weaseling in BMS and this could help a great deal! More toys to play with!
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#3822962 - 08/16/13 01:10 AM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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I enjoyed this book. One thing that really suprised me was how often his "Decoy" was shot away. It seems he had quite a few close calls. I mean that thing is only 300 feet behind you! I hope we get that added to BMS. From all reports the ALE-50 saved some Bone crews in Allied Force as well.
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#3880297 - 12/19/13 09:20 PM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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From all reports the ALE-50 saved some Bone crews in Allied Force as well.
Any sources?
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#3880738 - 12/20/13 04:54 PM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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Somewhere I have an old AW&ST that quotes Viper and Bone drivers as reeling in a frayed cord after leaving their target area. Maybe I can dig it up.
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#3881108 - 12/21/13 06:32 AM
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Couple more references: Jumper on Air Power "I am reminded of ... the first night that the B-1s were deployed [in Allied Force]. The B-1s came to us in the Block D/ALE-50 configuration, straight from the test world at Nellis AFB [Nev.]. On the first night, they came down south over the water [Adriatic Sea] in a formation. These were still the test guys flying these things. [The] ALE-50 towed decoys were deployed-and we watched the radars in Montenegro ... track the B-1s as they came down and turned the corner around Macedonia and up through and into Kosovo. We watched the radars, in real time, hand off the targets to the SA-6s, and the SA-6s came up in full-target track and fired their missiles. Those missiles took the ALE-50s off of the back end of the B-1s just like they were designed to do. The B-1s went on and hit their targets."
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#3923379 - 03/11/14 08:17 PM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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Great book so far, I'm about 120 pages into it.
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#3923509 - 03/12/14 01:59 AM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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Finished it a couple of weeks ago. It was a good read, but I feel like he glossed over a lot of years of flying where I am sure he has some good stories.
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#3924822 - 03/14/14 06:40 PM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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Couple more references: Jumper on Air Power Those missiles took the ALE-50s off of the back end of the B-1s just like they were designed to do.
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#3925297 - 03/15/14 07:40 PM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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I'm clearly in the minority, but I stopped reading the book about 60% through.
I know fighter pilots have big egos, but man alive this guy is in love with himself.
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#3926218 - 03/18/14 12:42 AM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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I'm clearly in the minority, but I stopped reading the book about 60% through.
I know fighter pilots have big egos, but man alive this guy is in love with himself. Concur, this book was crap. Lots of ego, little substance. Great that he served his nation, but he needed to be somewhat humble.
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#3926233 - 03/18/14 01:44 AM
Re: "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton
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Yes he has a lot of ego, but you have to admit the stories are good.
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