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#3863712 - 11/17/13 12:21 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots ***** [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Good shots General_Sultan yep


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#3865176 - 11/20/13 11:43 AM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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#3865182 - 11/20/13 12:02 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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The signatures on the picture is wrong, they are contrary to what is written in the statistics.

We see at statistic:
1) driver and gunner is killed ("Still intact" - NO)
2) radio broken
3) turret mechanisms is broken - "Turret safe" - NO
4) ammunition dispersed and uncovered (I dont know right term for this in English)

To fire appeared need to have something that can fire. High-explosive projectile does not guarantee the ignition.
Wheels with protection, and from a shell exploded _inside_ (HE shells have a fuse) armored car they shielded by armor.

#3865183 - 11/20/13 12:07 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Quote:
We see at statistic:
1) driver and gunner is killed ("Still intact" - NO)
2) radio broken
3) turret mechanisms is broken - "Turret safe" - NO
4) ammunition dispersed and uncovered (I dont know right term for this in English)

To fire appeared need to have something that can fire. High-explosive projectile does not guarantee the ignition.
Wheels with protection, and from a shell exploded _inside_ (HE shells have a fuse) armored car they shielded by armor.


alas you raise a fair point however I have found it that these statistics are not dishonest, many are the times I have seen "immobilized" and "Engine" upon striking the foe, and they continue their charges

I was quite surprised at the sturdiness of this BTR upon my shells! the smoke lifted away after the fateful explosion... suddenly.. I see the BTR standing there defiant.. suddenly many soldiers started emerging around it.. hatches were pushed open... I throw another HE-P shell to ignite this BTR.. yet it is defiant!!

you are right friend I should have utilized the HEAT shells... that would've shown the BTR! by the way I wish turrets could fly at this game! that would be gloriously realistic yep

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#3865185 - 11/20/13 12:13 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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also questionable is gunner's death!! the shells appear to have impacted violently outside on the walls with possible heavy shards and spall inside.. but impact low in chassis at driver's compartment (R.I.P, most threatened crewman!) gunner is far away! in the turret confused

#3865195 - 11/20/13 12:31 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: General_Sultan]  
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Originally Posted By: General_Sultan

alas you raise a fair point however I have found it that these statistics are not dishonest, many are the times I have seen "immobilized" and "Engine" upon striking the foe, and they continue their charges

Engine problems can be different and have meny levels. Not all of them lead to the total impossibility of movement.
Immobilized the same thing - can vary from temporary bogged or fixed from time to totall immobilization.

Statistics can show current state and memorize whats happen.

Originally Posted By: General_Sultan

you are right friend I should have utilized the HEAT shells... that would've shown the BTR! by the way I wish turrets could fly at this game! that would be gloriously realistic yep

This is totally unrealistic (flying turrets) is most cases, for BTRs is absolutely unrealisic if you dont hit it from huge guns or bombs.

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#3865200 - 11/20/13 12:39 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: General_Sultan]  
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Originally Posted By: General_Sultan
also questionable is gunner's death!! the shells appear to have impacted violently outside on the walls with possible heavy shards and spall inside.. but impact low in chassis at driver's compartment (R.I.P, most threatened crewman!) gunner is far away! in the turret confused



HE shells have fuses and in most cases dont explode outside thin shields. In case of BRDM HE shell broke armor and explode inside armored car and as result _can_ kill crew (but not guaranteed) even in turret.
At other side Canister shell on shots with BMP-1, has an instantaneous detonator and explodes normally on the shield. And gives shrapnel field, some fragments in your case is penetrate armor in the fueltank area and led to leakage of fuel.

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#3865228 - 11/20/13 01:32 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Quote:
Engine problems can be different and have meny levels. Not all of them lead to the total impossibility of movement.
Immobilized the same thing - can vary from temporary bogged or fixed from time to totall immobilization.

Statistics can show current state and memorize whats happen.


thanks friend! I will now know what to do!


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This is totally unrealistic (flying turrets) is most cases, for BTRs is absolutely unrealisic if you dont hit it from huge guns or bombs.



true words, perhaps only of large calibre high-explosive on the side can cause the turret to loosen, however for other tanks perhaps?



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HE shells have fuses and in most cases dont explode outside thin shields. In case of BRDM HE shell broke armor and explode inside armored car and as result _can_ kill crew (but not guaranteed) even in turret.
At other side Canister shell on shots with BMP-1, has an instantaneous detonator and explodes normally on the shield. And gives shrapnel field, some fragments in your case is penetrate armor in the fueltank area and led to leakage of fuel.



well say! perhaps something like this?





BRDM is very small, I surmise even sabot that will completely oblitirate armor and fly across this even that will cause saddening losses to the crew, it is very tight! what passes the thin protection of this vehicle has a high chances of impacting crew! but in BTR case it is very long and somewhat high causing wide space between the men, atleast this mean one man dies when struck through by the enemy, the rest may survive unless if catastrophic explosions or heavy spall or landmine etc..

by the way I have forgot to apologize about my horrible english, and thank you for your input and help, this has been most fruitful wave2

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#3865234 - 11/20/13 01:44 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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#3865276 - 11/20/13 03:29 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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T-62 is best tank.


#3865981 - 11/21/13 08:55 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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best tank.


#3866021 - 11/21/13 09:43 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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IN sabow I have to agree. But mainly due to generally lower tank engagement ranges where the M60 can not take full advantage of its fire control system. In closer in fights the T62 is better IMO as its smaller and faster.

#3866041 - 11/21/13 10:03 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Originally Posted By: FlashBurn
IN sabow I have to agree. But mainly due to generally lower tank engagement ranges where the M60 can not take full advantage of its fire control system. In closer in fights the T62 is better IMO as its smaller and faster. Best tank.

#3873825 - 12/09/13 05:08 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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#3880429 - 12/20/13 01:43 AM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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First of all great screen shoots.
I have been watching Steel Armour Blaze of War for a long time now.
It has a lot of features I would love to see in Steel beasts the Armour sim I use.
Such as visible crew. I am very tempted to give it a try.
I recognise some of the names on this thread, They some times appear on the SB thread so.
How do you compare the two sim,s which is better and why

#3880525 - 12/20/13 08:46 AM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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BOTH are good. This is IMO a situation where both do real world tanking. SBPRO more focuses on 80's to now tech. With focus on NOW. SABOW is 2 playable cold warriors. The interiors are a lot better than SBPRO but BOTH again are legit tank game. SABOW better visuals all around. But SBPRO gets the job done too.

At sabows heart is a real time tactics game. It uses play system from k43 and APOS but with tank sim. What this effectively means is a dynamic campaign over a set series of turns. SB uses general scenarios. Both have plus and negative sides. SB has longer engagement ranges. IN sabow engine is set to either 2000 or 3000 meters. Battle areas for a turn are 3 square KM with 1km borders around each side. It is possible for ai at least to drive 5 km across the map. For player you are stuck in 3km area. BUt it usually works just fine. The overall size of the maps are way bigger but battles are always broken into those smaller boxes. However these tanks are older so 3000 meters is pretty far for them and usually never have LOS that far.

Both are good. Sabow is way cheaper. Both are most certainly a buy. I personally think they go together rather well.

#3880651 - 12/20/13 02:32 PM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Both are excellent as Flash stated. Modern era vs "less modern" era. Sabow is a very deep sim, but imo,a less steep learning curve.

SB Pro has MP though.


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#3881017 - 12/21/13 02:20 AM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Thanks guys
I think I will buy this sim

Couple of questions

How effective are the ground attack planes.
Does Graviteam still support this product.
Do you guys think it will ever be MP enabled.

#3881081 - 12/21/13 04:55 AM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: FlashBurn]  
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All ground attack aircraft in Gravi stuff is not all that effective. Sometimes they hit right on and kill a few big things but usually just damage a few tanks and maybe kill a static gun or recoiless rifle. The Mi24's sometimes actually hit something with their crappy at2 missile. But that was a pretty crappy 1st generation guided missile.

#3881176 - 12/21/13 11:55 AM Re: SABOW Steel Armor Blaze of War screen shots [Re: marko1231123]  
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Originally Posted By: marko1231123
How effective are the ground attack planes.

As in reality not very effective, especially at moving armored targets.

Originally Posted By: marko1231123
Does Graviteam still support this product.

No. The rights for this game do not belong to us. Rights owner does not want to cooperate.
May be somthing changes at the end of the decade.

Originally Posted By: marko1231123
Do you guys think it will ever be MP enabled.

No, its a single player game. Not need any MPs.

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