Are you even interested in Elite Dangerous?

Let's see... have you noticed I added a link to the Elite Dangerous FAQ?
And that thing is like a holy wall of text?
And that's not even close to vague?

You're a big boy and I firmly believe you can also find Elite Dangerous official forums all by yourself, if so you wanted.

And I still don't like your attitude.
I'm not here to entertain you, to convince you are right/wrong/left or whatever.

You're simply having wrong impressions about Elite Dangerous.

Now, are you happy with it? Cool with me.
You want to correct your point of view? You have all the means to -> Cool with me.

I had no idea about the pricing structure for E:D, I'll no doubt buy it regardless but does seem a little odd.

How so? If I may help, that is...

From a economic point of view, certainly SC it's a better deal, but the true is that it's been years since we don't have an space sim with the scope and dimension of E:D or SC, so i beleive the best for those who love this kind of game is to pledge for both, and play both. Time will tell which will end up to be our favourite, but i think both will be highly enjoyable and entertaining.

About planet landing on E:D that it should be there from the beginning, well, probably they could do that, but we have noh idea how many extra resources and time would take to have them with a quality that goes in hand with the rest of the game. So maybe that would be too risky for the developer, and choose to leave it for later. They have their reasons, and its they job to evaluate the risk and rewards.

Personally i don't see planet landing on Elite as a must to get it now or from the beginning, i prefer to have the game earlier (too many years of starvation for an space sim) and later on have the add-on that adds planet landing.

Nicely put.
My thoughts exactly.

Plus the latest videos are REALLY interesting...

SO then lets look at the known future expansions then...

Paid Expansion List:
COOPing one ship


Planetary Landing



Docking with other ships



Atmospheric Flight



That is the problem I have with this game. I am fine with making a bunch of new ships, equipment or missions and charging for that... but I dont like charging for core gameplay features that will no doubt fragment your ability to play MP/COOP.

It will probably all come down to how they package all these features for resale.

I'm going to enjoy both games.

But can either one measure up to the masterpiece that is X Stillbirth?

Master... I don't know what to make of you.
I know you are not stupid. I've read many of your posts, I think alike in many regards... but then you dish out stuff like this last post of your and I am really speechless. Or waiting for a punchline.


Maybe the co-op part was hard to read altogether so it requires a little clearing up.

But your sorry attempt at trolling by trying to place atmospheric flight and planetary landing as two different paid expansions is debunked by the same piece you use as evidence.

As already stated, if genuinely interested ED forums will welcome everyone looking for proper infos.

I'm nobody's caretaker. Or part of the dev team.

But since passive aggressive approach seems so in, as of late, I'll give it a shot. Tell me if I'm going good.


You dish out hundreds of $ for virtual goods in a game and you are a loyal supporter.

I put 80£ (and that's it... I will geyANYTHING ) for the only game so far with a realistic rendition of a whole galaxy, seamlessly explorable and I am a gullible moron being milked by an evil company.

Do yourself a nice favor, don't bother with Elite.

Primarily what I like about what I'm seeing in Elite Dangerous is a very clear and achievable development plan. The "expansion" model seems reasonable enough given the circumstances, and the Roller Coaster Tycoon analogy fits it well. The basic product is most of what I'm interested in in a space sim, and then their expansion prioritization meshes well with my own: atmospheric flight on the 'pretty important' end and first person segments on the 'don't care' end.

I suppose it's inevitable on the internet that it would degrade to a SC versus Elite flamewar (crowd funding seems to make these things even more vitriolic). I surely anticipate I'll be playing them both, though I tend to lean more toward Elite based on their respective histories mainly because Elite took a harder scifi/sim approach, though SC does seem to be heading in that direction more than Privateer/Freelancer.

The point is that core gameplay features are being included as "expansions." That is the whole point I was making. The listed features are NOT part of the main game you buy.

So If I buy the game and a few other friends buy the game odds are good we wont be able to play with each other because of a content missmatch. This may or may not be the case with ED as they have not expanded on exactly how it will work.

The largest FUBAR that I have seen a game do was RoF forcing people to buy a 20 dollar map. It literally fragmented the MP community. Even in my 8 man squadron it means people just could not play during squad night for 1-2 hours when that map rolled into play.

The same case is happening with ED.

COOP
Planetary Landing
Docking with other ships
Atmospheric Flight

Even if all 4 of those features are included in the very first expansion it will still mean that there will be gameplay missmatch between even small groups of friends trying to play the game together. It also sets a huge precedents for them to do the same with other features.

Until they display exactly how they are going to do it and prove to me it wont fragment my small group of friend I want to play with I see absolutely no reason to give them any money.

This is NOT an SC vs ED thing. I am just opposed to the way ED did their expansion stuff. Extra ships are fine, extra missions would be fine, but not core features. I just dont see why they are doing it and how it will work without completely #%&*$# up the MP community.

Don't bother Master, they just refuse to see it objectively. Even when I tried to take SC out of the equation.... twice.

And yet they go back to it like a mantra. We'll then I'll oblige - SC full game + all features - $35 USD. Elite full game + features - 80GBP.

Just tell your friends that if they ask. I know I'll be telling people I know how it is. And I wouldn't be lying.

The thing is I'm an Elite fan as we'll. I played Elite well before WC. I'm not here to knock it, just tell it how I see it.

Well you are an avid and long time flight simulator fan i beleive, and most likely (of course can't be sure) you played IL-2, which i will take as an example. In that sim, with several addon we had after the release of the game, you were forced to have the addon to play with those who already had it. Well, i think, and of course it's just speculation, this will be similar. You will have to buy the addons to play with those that have them installed. But, you still have the choice of not buy it and play singleplayer, or multiplayer with players with the same version.

Having said that, most certainly SC seems to have from the start a far more reacher mutiplaye gamplay experience, but we still have two years, at least, until we get the game. Elite will come out next year, with multiplyer, of course not with the depth of SC, but its less than one year away. If its released next year as they announced.
Maybe, and it's a big MAYBE, by the time SC it's released (final game, not beta), we will have Elite with the addon that allow us to walk outside of the ship, and land on planets and other ships.

Besides, i must admit that i pledged for E:D too because it seems that will offer a darker universe and a better lonewolf experience, something that goes very well with my antisocial personality. .

Hey, easy there tiger, its just an opinion. Noh need to get all baffled up (hope that is the right expression ).
Lets not make this like SC forum, where evem some tiny criticism you get viciously attacked as a troller, crybaby, winner, and on and on.
And if you praise something, you will also get attacked of worshipper. It's unbeleivable!

WynnTTr is right, with SC with 35 dollars you get the full game, in the end of 2015 or in 2016. With elite you have to pay 80 GBP without ship boarding, planetary landing, and walk outside the ship, but you will get it on 2014.
It is like it is, noh point to attack or defend any of those games for that, it's only a matter of choice.

Salut!

The problem with that example though is that the IL-2 expansion had like 1-2 years between them. They are saying that they will have the first expansion for ED out within a month or two of the game dropping.

Again, I will just have to wait and see. I would love to play it and im not above abandoning the SC ship for ED if ED turns out better but I dont see a reason to give them my money right NOW. I just dont have as much faith in it as with SC.

Also even though the full game for SC comes out 15-16 there should be the alpha for the open world and sq42 by the time ED releases.

Ok, exciting times ahead!

Backer App (the website through which you had to pledge to get access to the game) has finally closed!
The new shop will be up soon!

Transition means Alpha play INCOMING!

Hold on to your HOTAS...
Elite is coming.

Unfortunately i only pledged enough to have acces to the beta.

I'll wait for some cool videos from you komemiute!

Uhrr... I'm first round beta. :P
I know for sure it'll be a limited experience so far... but I wouldn't mind follow someone who have alpha.

For that reason I've put in the main forum a new thread with updated info (as fast as I possibly can, with family and such)...

Stay tuned!


EDIT: Hell, some duplicated info never killed anybody...
Here's a thread full of info about people with alpha access that will try to stream or youtube stuff...

http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9172

Have fun!

I regret not buying the alpha for this lol but then again if I could I would buy every game lol.

I really hope this becomes something! (All my old reservations remain but damn it would be great to have a good elite again)

All in all I'm still more than convinced that alpha are not so important.
Wait did I just say that?!?!



Ok got to explain... I mean that, especially in this case, the alpha is a bit too pricey when first round beta starts just few weeks after. With 100 £ more in my pockets.

That said if I was to magically receive an alpha pass I would not sleep anymore...

Alpha is simply disjointed missions presenting to the players limited experience focussed on single gamellay aspects. It's little more than a little 1 vs 1 space arena.

Day after day this Dogfight module will be enriched with more and more features till it's a proper beta. And I can finally jojn in.

Man, Master, I do REALLY hope we're getting THE Elite.
Doubts after all are good. They keep us on our toes and objective.

Sorry for the edgy reactions before.
Kids are absorbing lotsa energies and left us parents totally depleted.

Also sorry for the lenghty explanation. :P