#3862075 - 11/13/13 07:01 PM
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Why wouldn't you? They've created a couple of great AFM heli modules so far. Im surprised by sudden involvement of Belsimtek though.. can we expect as same quality as A10C FM made by ED from them?
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#3862377 - 11/14/13 11:12 AM
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Why wouldn't you? They've created a couple of great AFM heli modules so far. Im surprised by sudden involvement of Belsimtek though.. can we expect as same quality as A10C FM made by ED from them? not having bought either of Belsimtek products, I cannot gauge the quality of their work, but I fully share his surprise, since skills needed to make a helicopter add on are not the same as those needed to make a fighter add on, the same way we don´t see KTM in WRC.
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#3862567 - 11/14/13 06:29 PM
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...not having bought either of Belsimtek products, I cannot gauge the quality of their work, but I fully share his surprise, since skills needed to make a helicopter add on are not the same as those needed to make a fighter add on, the same way we don´t see KTM in WRC. Belsimtek is the only 3rd Party so far to release product. Both helicopters and fighter aircraft are products of aerospace engineering. Lets see what they do before judging them.
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#3862579 - 11/14/13 06:49 PM
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...not having bought either of Belsimtek products, I cannot gauge the quality of their work, but I fully share his surprise, since skills needed to make a helicopter add on are not the same as those needed to make a fighter add on, the same way we don´t see KTM in WRC. Belsimtek is the only 3rd Party so far to release product. Both helicopters and fighter aircraft are products of aerospace engineering. Lets see what they do before judging them. BST is not a 3rd Party, they are an ED Partner. And they are doing the AFM for the F-15C, which at it's core is Mainly AeroDynamic and FCS Data. Rotary or Fixed Wing doesnt really matter, as long as you have the data, the charts, and the programmers. Just because they've released only Rotary Wing Modules does not mean they arent capable or havent planned a Fixed wing Aircraft. I Have Every Module except the Mi-8. The Huey is Right up there with the A-10C and KA-50 in terms of Quality and Fidelity.
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#3862582 - 11/14/13 06:50 PM
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That's like saying you'd doubt someone's ability to drive a van because they only drove a sedan :P not having bought either of Belsimtek products, I cannot gauge the quality of their work, but I fully share his surprise, since skills needed to make a helicopter add on are not the same as those needed to make a fighter add on, the same way we don´t see KTM in WRC.
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#3862619 - 11/14/13 07:53 PM
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That's like saying you'd doubt someone's ability to drive a van because they only drove a sedan :P not having bought either of Belsimtek products, I cannot gauge the quality of their work, but I fully share his surprise, since skills needed to make a helicopter add on are not the same as those needed to make a fighter add on, the same way we don´t see KTM in WRC. it is like supposing that I, being someone skilled in creating skins for flight sims , could start to create combat aircraft models of the same good (or bad) quality as soon as I decided to start making them. For it is not only that experience is needed, but time enough to gain an understanding of what you are doing. and your comparison is wrong, it is like a Citroen C3 driver, used to drive at 120mph in a rainy day, trying to do the same in a fully loaded Eight Wheeler More like saying the the maker of a fine line of sedans cannot make a coupe having never driven the company's sedans. Also, what is up with all the racing references?
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#3862629 - 11/14/13 08:12 PM
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it is like supposing that I, being someone skilled in creating skins for flight sims , could start to create combat aircraft models of the same good (or bad) quality as soon as I decided to start making them. More like if you could start making skins for ships. and your comparison is wrong, it is like a Citroen C3 driver, used to drive at 120mph in a rainy day, trying to do the same in a fully loaded Eight Wheeler I'm fairly certain that my comparison is correct
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#3862702 - 11/14/13 10:14 PM
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Why wouldn't you? They've created a couple of great AFM heli modules so far. Im surprised by sudden involvement of Belsimtek though.. can we expect as same quality as A10C FM made by ED from them? not having bought either of Belsimtek products, I cannot gauge the quality of their work, but I fully share his surprise, since skills needed to make a helicopter add on are not the same as those needed to make a fighter add on, the same way we don´t see KTM in WRC. Their UH1 is awesome.
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#3862703 - 11/14/13 10:15 PM
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I wonder could that ever be on DCS some day?
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#3862749 - 11/15/13 12:31 AM
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I wonder could that ever be on DCS some day? One thing is for sure, that isn't the C-17 from DCS. Its harder to tell for the Russian aircraft, but if it is the same 3d model its a completely different texture. Also there were AC-130s which aren't in DCS, but ED did announce at one point they had a contract to do some sim work for one, so who knows.
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#3862751 - 11/15/13 12:34 AM
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Bagram AFB yikes the potential loss of framerates frightens me. Really need to save some money and start building that super PC!
I've got a bad feeling about this.....
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#3862806 - 11/15/13 03:56 AM
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I wonder could that ever be on DCS some day? As I've said before: None of the Content in those videos is representative of upcoming Modules or 3rd Party Modules. They Are Simply Earlier Versions of EDGE running on Different Simulation platforms being used by other companies for training. So dont go Posting DCS:KA-52, DCS:AV-8x, DCS: Whatever. These maps are Commercial Property belonging to other Companies. They (The Company that built the Simulator), are Using ED's Image Renderer, Which they Licensed. Everything else (Terrain, Textures, Static Objects, etc) is built by the Company that Built the Simulator. (in this Case Concord XXI). The only thing in these Videos that is ED's is the Licensed Image Renderer, which is an Earlier Version of Edge. The Only thing that Relates to DCS is how the terrain looks (Mesh Detail, Effects, Etc).
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