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#3812451 - 07/21/13 02:32 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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All I need is more real scenarios, and more realistic behavior.... there is DCS already....

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#3812455 - 07/21/13 02:41 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
All I need is more real scenarios, and more realistic behavior.... there is DCS already....


what do u mean more realistic behavior !
would u more explain ?

you meant was add to samsim IRZ decoy object ?

#3812457 - 07/21/13 02:45 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Farokh, it's not just the SON-9. It's the SA-11, SA-8 and SON-9, and a good chance of TV and optic modes being added to the ZSU-23-4, SA-2 and SA-4.

A few months ago, I was thinking that Hpasp would run out of systems to put into SAM Simulator. I was wrong, very wrong. The speed Hpasp is adding new things is increasing!

It's not just a SON-9, it's a sign there's much more to come in the future!

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piston79, yes there's DCS already, the aircraft and aircraft weapons in DCS are great, but the SAMs are unrealistic cartoon jokes. Besides, I want to shoot down human pilots, not bad computer AI pilots.

But it probably won't happen frown

#3812463 - 07/21/13 03:19 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Dcs world and Samsim as module would be a good dream.. . smile2

#3812506 - 07/21/13 05:53 PM Re: Future Plan (SAM SIMULATOR) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Originally Posted By: dfbeck
Have you ever considered porting the code to Linux?


No, as this is a quite old code, written in MS Visual Basic 6.


You developed your game in VB6??? eek

I tried the newer flavors of VB, even C#...
http://198.65.10.229/DID/Temp/DSCF2362.JPG

...but couldn't get past the long wait times (loading and working). It takes a mere couple of seconds to open VB6 under Win2K on my reliable old Dell, and output files are small and few. Not to mention the first releases of VB.NET didn't include major features like Edit and Continue and you still can't compile to native code (secure executable). EDIT: Also, older software isn't always trying to "phone home", my work PC is never online.

I see you've even used VB6's integrated Package and Deployment (setup.exe), smart thinking as it works fine with Win7/64-bit (unlike InstallShield 2x). I panicked a few years back thinking MS was going to remove VB6 runtime support from Windows (Vista). Now I'm convinced this will never happen in my lifetime, VB.NET maybe but not VB6.

Have you thought about porting or are you going to stick it out with VB6?

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#3812694 - 07/22/13 07:58 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
All I need is more real scenarios, and more realistic behavior.... there is DCS already....


During the next weeks, I'm adding some new situations (Operation Moduler), and enhancing some of the existing ones (Operation El Dorado Canyon).
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But these will be released with the OSA, far-far away...

Last edited by Hpasp; 07/22/13 07:59 AM.

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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3812834 - 07/22/13 03:06 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

During the next weeks, I'm adding some new situations (Operation Moduler), and enhancing some of the existing ones (Operation El Dorado Canyon).
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dear hpasp... what do u mean about mission moduler ? i didnt hear it before it !
kind of map editor ?

so what about other bugs ?
i achieve them in one page at 25th bug topic !


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#3812848 - 07/22/13 03:31 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Google is your friend: Operation Moduler
He mentioned earlier that he expands by that confict.

#3855263 - 10/28/13 06:58 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Will be there some new missions for others SAM,s in "OSA" release?

#3855276 - 10/28/13 07:35 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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There will be a completely new firing range introduced, called NAMFI with 3 NATO specific targets.



I plan to add the Cuito Cuanavale situation, where a South African Mirage F1 was killed.



Also I would like to add Libya situations, and Egypt as non-historical ones...

Last edited by Hpasp; 10/28/13 07:38 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3855283 - 10/28/13 07:45 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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So, new scenarios for SA-8B only, right? No "Baltic express", no "Vladivostok"....

#3855287 - 10/28/13 07:48 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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#3855288 - 10/28/13 07:51 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: ePap]  
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Originally Posted By: ePap
+10000000000 thumbsup


I"ll wait for the developer's answer...

#3855290 - 10/28/13 07:58 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
So, new scenarios for SA-8B only, right? No "Baltic express", no "Vladivostok"....


Nope.

Recreating realistic Karat view might take several years...
... but at the end, you will see an RM launch (at Ashuluk) in a different way, you see it currently.

(RM target missile engine burnout...)



Last edited by Hpasp; 10/28/13 08:19 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3855293 - 10/28/13 08:08 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: piston79]  
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+10000000000 thumbsup


I"ll wait for the developer's answer...


This was for NAMFI ...

#3855300 - 10/28/13 08:30 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp


Nope.

Recreating realistic Karat view might take several years...
... but at the end, you will see an RM launch (at Ashuluk) in a different way, you see it currently.

(RM engine burnout...)



Hm.. No, thanks! nope
My life is too short to wait for a realistic KARAT (an almost useless device IMHO) years from now.... I guess it is fun for you to code some visual objects, but not good old radar screen anime...
Hope you'll earn some money, making the SAM Sim with KARAT a valuable asset to some other general arms sim....

P.S. I've sent you some data for "Baltic express", also I got some time schedule for Kadena flights, but as your project goes in a way, which makes such data useless, you could delete those files.

#3855457 - 10/29/13 05:02 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Recreating realistic Karat view might take several years...


Does that mean things aren't going well? Unfortunate if that's so.

But, you've given us a great game FOR FREE, so we can't complain. Thanks Hpasp! Keep up the good work. smile

#3855493 - 10/29/13 11:02 AM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Wait and you will see !!!

It is not fair to complain before we see the result of Hpasp's effort .

It is not only for free but it is the only real simulator for pc .

Thanks Hpasp again .

#3855517 - 10/29/13 12:24 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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dear hpasp... i should say piston79 is right
as you know better than me...
samsim Known only for realistic panels and switches and great ideas behind this software

because access to the real panels for normal people was denied in all of countries !
so samsim give this gift to the people who want to see them as realistic !

did you think till now, why samsim users dont work with DCS : combine arms ?
because we LOVE realistic thing ...
we want to know the truth about sam systems ....
because we LOVE to analyze them ...
so why ? because we LOVE sam systems !

and the other side we LOVE hpasp and love samsim 4 ever salute


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#3855521 - 10/29/13 12:31 PM Re: Future Plan { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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@farokh : three birds singing ...

What means "we" ?
Speak for your self only .

If you want to know about real Sam systems,just buy one ...

PS : Sokrates use to use the same method of your analysis ,you know ...

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