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#3839920 - 09/20/13 10:46 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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As my kids would say; "I am soooo buying that!"

Great job, LS. Really nice. thumbsup


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#3839928 - 09/20/13 11:02 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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A question: how much, if any, bandwidth does this thing use?


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#3840006 - 09/21/13 04:46 AM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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That's a really good question. The communication between FlightMap and FlightConnect is really light weight and fast but it does happen many times a second. Over wifi you are not going to notice it at all as we're talking about bits. The google maps part of the application is where the majority of the data is going to come from. I believe that the app will utilize the google maps cache on the machine but the download of the tiles is the largest use of bandwidth. I honestly don't know how much that is. One thing to note is that I don't currently allow the connection between FlightMap and FlightConnect to be over anything other than wifi.

#3840088 - 09/21/13 01:21 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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Originally Posted By: L0stS0ul
The google maps part of the application is where the majority of the data is going to come from. I believe that the app will utilize the google maps cache on the machine but the download of the tiles is the largest use of bandwidth.


That was my thought as well. If it's a couple of megs it's no big deal, but if an hour of flying starts to chew up a 100 megs or something like that, it might be worth knowing about.

Anyway, I'm going to buy your app this morning. Looking forward to some good flying fun. smile


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#3840091 - 09/21/13 01:29 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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I will take some time today to benchmark using an area I don't generally fly and try to get a rough number. Google has really reduced Google maps bandwidth so it will be interesting to know what it is.

#3840139 - 09/21/13 03:35 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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Aw, and what a shame, it's raining all day today. I have nothing to do but stay home and fly. biggrin


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#3840191 - 09/21/13 05:24 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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Thank you and I hope you enjoy the app. If you have any suggestions please let me know.

I just ran a 15 minute test in southern Ireland in a mooney flying at roughly 155 knots. I used the app as normal. I used it to build out a flight plan through southern Ireland to Dingle and then flew 15 minutes of the leg. I switched between the different map modes and flew most of it on the height map view which is the highest bandwidth at a medium zoom level so new tiles were coming in often.

FlightMap received about 18mb of data in that time. which would put it around 70mb an hour for usage on the higher end since I used the app for building out the flight plan as well. Depending on usage I'd probably say a safe range would be between 60-80mb per hour depending on usage. Almost all of that was from Google Maps. The communication between FlightMap and FlightConnect would be a little bit that could be removed. I have not measured how much data per 15 minutes that is. The communication between FlightConnect and FlightMap is all over local wifi so would not affect bandwidth usage. I'll see if I can figure out how to just test that bit.


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#3840207 - 09/21/13 06:00 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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I ran a test with FlightGauge which polls for data just like FlightMap. It gets back just a little less data but I calculated that for an hour of usage the data between FlightConnect and FlightGauge is around 6mb. I'd guess FlightMap is a little more than that probably in the 10mb range. So you can cut around 10mb per hour off the numbers in my previous post as this 10mb would not affect internet bandwidth but would be local wifi bandwidth.

So based off my testing 1 hour of FlightMap usage would yield:
~10mb per hour local wifi bandwidth usage
~50-70mb per hour internet bandwidth usage

#3840227 - 09/21/13 06:46 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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Originally Posted By: L0stS0ul
Thank you and I hope you enjoy the app.


It's great! A very nice add-on. Tried a few short flights and I like it a lot. And the easy install & run you put together is five-star. Would like to see the gauges work on a 7" pad, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.

Thanks for the bandwidth usage info. 60 to 80MB an hour isn't a big deal, but it's enough so that the user should know about it.

Good luck with the project! smile


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#3840228 - 09/21/13 06:47 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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Oh, you should post at the avsim.com forum. Big place full of FSX users. I'm sure they'd go nuts about this. smile


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#3840286 - 09/21/13 09:38 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: Cold_Flying]  
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Originally Posted By: Cold_Flying

It's great! A very nice add-on. Tried a few short flights and I like it a lot. And the easy install & run you put together is five-star. Would like to see the gauges work on a 7" pad, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.

Thanks for the bandwidth usage info. 60 to 80MB an hour isn't a big deal, but it's enough so that the user should know about it.

Good luck with the project! smile


I'm really glad to hear it's working smoothly for you. I tend to fly adhoc flight plans a lot. I jump in and choose someplace I've never seen before and then come up with a quick flightplan in the app. It's great for keeping bearing and finding things to go look at in the sim. If you utilize the built in FSX/P3D GPS flight plan the app, for me at least, turns into a completely different thing all together.

I've been experimenting with ways to try and fit one or two of the gauges in the smaller form factor and it really just does not work. It takes away to much from the main focus of the app which is the navigation. On the larger tablets I added the gauges originally because of to much space. I am working very hard to get the new application, FlightGauge, out to you all. While FlightMap only shows those 3 gauges and the fuel I'm working to have give FlightGauge all of the major gauges while also allowing for some selection and layout. We'll see how far I get but I'm hoping that it will knock everyone's socks off.


#3840309 - 09/21/13 10:30 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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Maybe a "button" that lets the user go back and forth between gauges and map - or to pop up the gauges over the map - for the 7" pads. Time to land, don't need the map, hit the button and get the gauges.

Though I'm sure it was easier for me to type that out than it would be for you to build it. smile

Looking forward to your progress.


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#3840933 - 09/23/13 06:20 PM Re: FlightMap 2.4 Released. Improved 7 inch tablet support and French and Spanish translations [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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That is an interesting idea. I'll have to look into how that might work.

Thanks

#3842702 - 09/27/13 06:15 PM Re: FlightMap - Android Google Map Tracking with Flight Simulator X [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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It's been a really popular request and I've been working on adding the gauges to the 7 inch tablet version of FlightMap and it's coming along really well. I think I've figured out a really good way to do it and after doing a few flights I'm really pleased with how it's coming along. It's still really preliminary but I thought I would share some info and screenshots. Check out my blog for all the screens and stuff

http://vineripesoftware.wordpress.com/20...7-inch-tablets/

#3842736 - 09/27/13 07:31 PM Re: FlightMap - Android Google Map Tracking with Flight Simulator X [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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A splendid idea. biggrin


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#3843042 - 09/28/13 07:56 PM Re: FlightMap - Android Google Map Tracking with Flight Simulator X [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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What about if the whole map slid downwards revealing the guages when needed. That way you could still have the plane and bearing on screen and the guages too and when not needed you can just slide the map and guages back up. Is that possible?

#3843382 - 09/29/13 08:19 PM Re: FlightMap - Android Google Map Tracking with Flight Simulator X [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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That's kinda how it's working only the map is not sliding down as well. Only the gauges come down. In use it has not bothered me as I've been sliding the gauges down when I'm about to land or take off or when I want to see one of the gauges. I don't tend to keep them on the screen when I'm using the map. Once the beta gets into the hands of my testers I'll ask them what they think. Seeing a screen shot doesn't do the feature justice. I also need to do a feature video for the 7 inch tablet version so once this gets closer I'll have that as well. I'm hoping this new release will go to beta next week and released in 2 weeks.

#3845918 - 10/04/13 02:22 PM Re: FlightMap - Android Google Map Tracking with Flight Simulator X [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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I'm still working on finalizing the new Gauge drop down. My beta testers don't like how much space it eats up when it is down so I've been playing with different ideas to resolve it like sliding the map down, using transparencies, tilting the map, etc. None of the changes worked very well due to such a small amount of area for the map view when the gauges are visible. One of my beta testers has a really good idea that I'm going to try tho. Will see how that works out. Over all the beta tests are going really well and as soon as I work out the design for the gauge drop down I should be releasing the update.

The next release is a huge release from a bug fix and device support standpoint. I have completely rewritten all of the networking code from the launch page. I finally have it a way that I like and it should be much more user friendly. I have also completely redone every single screen layout that FlightMap supports. This was a huge undertaking and is taking a while to test but this change will make FlightMap far more resilient to custom roms and different device hardware. It really is amazing how many configurations there are out there for android tablets.

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#3851073 - 10/17/13 01:46 PM FlightMap 2.6 Released with Gauges for 7 inch tablets [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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FlightMap 2.6 has been released with Gauge support for smaller tablets. Just pull down or tap the top of the screen to show/hide them. This version also includes much better graphics and layouts for all tablet sizes. It was a complete rewrite of the layout code. There are also improvements to the FSX/P3D flight plan support for Approach vectors as well as 10 more airplanes to choose from for a total of 28. Lots of great changes in this version. I hope you all enjoy it.

More information can be found on my website
http://vineripesoftware.wordpress.com/flightmap/

and FlightMap can be found on the Play Store here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vrs.flightmap

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#3851611 - 10/18/13 09:45 PM Re: FlightMap 2.6 Released with Gauges for 7 inch tablets [Re: L0stS0ul]  
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There were some reports of FlightMap crashing with the latest release version if the "gps" button is selected when FlightConnect does not have the complete flight plan from the simulator. This can happen if FlightConnect is not running when the flight plan is loaded. This issue is now fixed. If users want to see the full flight plan mapped in FlightMap, FlightConnect must be running when the flight plan is loaded in the simulator. FlightConnect is written to function as a service so it can remain running at all times. It uses very little memory.

I had already started work on new features when this issue came up. Because of that a new feature did get released with this update. FlightMap now no longer requires the user to select between GA or regular Air Speed Indicators. FlightMap will automatically select the best indicator based on the aircraft that is loaded in the simulator. Because of this I have added a number of new air speed gauges. These include 100, 200, 360, 450, 540, and 900 knot variants. FlightMap will select the best one so the selection on the launch screen has been removed.

FlightMap is available for purchase on the Android Play Store here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vrs.flightmap

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