#3841691 - 09/25/13 03:22 PM
SB Pro PE v3.0 M1A2 MBT...
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#3842089 - 09/26/13 02:21 PM
Re: SB Pro PE v3.0 M1A2 MBT...
[Re: Magnum]
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Pooch
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Yes, this is terrific. I knew I was missing something good when I'd read the AAR's that were posted. I grabbed the year's worth of SB and see no reason I will not be renewing.
Lots to learn, though. I still don't really know how to use the map. And have not figured out the lazing system, even after watching the tutorial. I seem to be just riding along on the quick missions and my crew seem to be just fine without me. I'll get it.
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#3842094 - 09/26/13 02:36 PM
Re: SB Pro PE v3.0 M1A2 MBT...
[Re: Magnum]
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Magnum
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It's really easier then it looks.. it's a easy game to play, a hard one to master...
Pick 1 tank to learn first, IE: the M1A1 is very easy...
Do the tutorials for the M1A1, in the tutorial mission list, don't worry if you don't understand it all, I still don't.
Go to the range with the M1A1, and practice shooting... F6 to get into the gunner seat, (think you start there), F2 for the main sight, key pad + to toggle between sight view, (don't need that one for the range), Left click on screen and lead the tank slightly, right mouse lases the distance, only do that when your tracking smoothly, immediately after the lase, (wait to long and the readings wrong) hit the space bar to fire. Hopefully a hit. if not, repeat till you do.
If the next vehicle is a truck or a PC, it will say load HEAT, or load SABOT if you just engaged with a HEAT. After your shot, AFTER because you fire what you have in the pipe first, hit your P key to reset the sight and then the INS key for SABOT, and the DEL key for HEAT, then repeat.
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#3842121 - 09/26/13 03:35 PM
Re: SB Pro PE v3.0 M1A2 MBT...
[Re: Magnum]
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Lieste
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Many of the youtubers (magnum included  ) don't dump lead between engagements as reliably as they should. When scanning or slewing to a new target in the M1 it is a much better idea to do it with the lead locked to zero. You need to wait for the stale lead to expire once on target, and it is much harder to stabilise the new lead rate if the FCS isn't dumped before lasing. I'd recommend the 'Land-navigation' mission by GaryOwen (iirc) for learning how to read the map, and to orient on features. Tanks! is good for a quick bit of fun, and has (predictable) threats coming from all points... you can increase your odds by using terrain screening to manage the battlespace, and remove threats from one direction before re-orienting. There are reasons that the Leopard 2 series are easier to learn: The lead is 'under the hood' and induced only on demand. The sight picture is constant, with no drifting reticule. The Loader applies the ammunition switch according to what he loads, the gunner cannot forget to index correctly. This is really easy to do when the commander is calling for ammunition types and targets subsequently change after loading. The presence of 'reverse' steering when a range is indexed. The Leopard gun will remain aligned with a stationary target while the tank moves (over short distances), while the M1 gunner must continually adjust the aim point.
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#3842257 - 09/26/13 07:44 PM
Re: SB Pro PE v3.0 M1A2 MBT...
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How faithfully does SB model the FBCB2 in the M1A2? Just curious since I did some integration work with the FBCB2. Not at all
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#3842424 - 09/27/13 01:01 AM
Re: SB Pro PE v3.0 M1A2 MBT...
[Re: Lieste]
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godzilla1985
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Many of the youtubers (magnum included ) don't dump lead between engagements as reliably as they should. When scanning or slewing to a new target in the M1 it is a much better idea to do it with the lead locked to zero. You need to wait for the stale lead to expire once on target, and it is much harder to stabilise the new lead rate if the FCS isn't dumped before lasing. I'd recommend the 'Land-navigation' mission by GaryOwen (iirc) for learning how to read the map, and to orient on features. Tanks! is good for a quick bit of fun, and has (predictable) threats coming from all points... you can increase your odds by using terrain screening to manage the battlespace, and remove threats from one direction before re-orienting. There are reasons that the Leopard 2 series are easier to learn: The lead is 'under the hood' and induced only on demand. The sight picture is constant, with no drifting reticule. The Loader applies the ammunition switch according to what he loads, the gunner cannot forget to index correctly. This is really easy to do when the commander is calling for ammunition types and targets subsequently change after loading. The presence of 'reverse' steering when a range is indexed. The Leopard gun will remain aligned with a stationary target while the tank moves (over short distances), while the M1 gunner must continually adjust the aim point. Must be a different strokes for different folks thing since my personal best kills vs rounds spent ratio is much higher with the Abrams and Challenger II then with any of the Leopard variants in SB Pro PE. 
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#3842671 - 09/27/13 05:05 PM
Re: SB Pro PE v3.0 M1A2 MBT...
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HomeFries
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How faithfully does SB model the FBCB2 in the M1A2? Just curious since I did some integration work with the FBCB2. Yeah, we don't. FBCB2 is largely classified, and besides, we'd rather connect to it and let the original devices do their thing than to replicate all the menus which are changing over time, anyways. This YouTube playlist contains a 3rd party video from an FBCB2 competitor (Sitaware Frontline) showing off an integration with SB Pro. It can be done.  Thanks, Ssnake. Not to worry; you won't lose a sale over it. I just won't be able to use the "professional development" excuse with the mrs. 
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Exodus
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