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#3830898 - 09/03/13 04:02 AM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Lord Vaako (Karl Urban) will be in this new film so it would definitely help if you watch Chronicles of Riddick beforehand.


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#3830902 - 09/03/13 04:26 AM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Agreed. And don't expect Pitch Black in Chronicles. It's the same character but almost seems like it's a few hundred years further in the future and with a much larger plot going on.
It was a shocker for me when I initially saw it, but after that I loved it.


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#3830926 - 09/03/13 07:20 AM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Personally I liked the Chronicles very much, but they were something entirely different than Pitch Black.

#3830928 - 09/03/13 07:23 AM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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I would rank Chronicles in my top 5 sci-fi movies.

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#3830952 - 09/03/13 10:52 AM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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I think what surprised me the most about Chronicles was Colm Feore playing the Necromonger leader. Feore is a good actor but I never imagined him playing a role like that.


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#3831184 - 09/03/13 06:28 PM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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I think there was some backstory missing for him. We needed to know more about him. Instead, he was a bit one dimensional. Vaako at least was fleshed out.




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#3831192 - 09/03/13 06:47 PM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Yeah, I think that was the problem--they were just dropped on us. It does sound like there's an interesting story to it. They barely touch on the fact that Colm Feore's character wasn't the first Lord Marshall. They made them sound like a group of thugs in a few ships rather than an empire. I hope they find a way to work it into this movie some.

Interesting site with some good info:
http://riddick.wikia.com/wiki/Riddick_Wiki


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#3831421 - 09/04/13 02:45 AM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Thanks guys, will watch them in the intended sequence then



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One huge aspect I love about Chronicles of Riddick is the very ending. It's very rare for a film to take a creative risk like that with such a dark anti-hero ending.


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Is the uncut version (extra 15 minutes) worth getting?

Chronicles is on iTunes and Play but only iTunes has the uncut one.



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#3831482 - 09/04/13 05:40 AM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Can't say I remember 15 minutes, but there is a sequence that kind of elaborates on his heritage. Also opens up a lot of WTF questions though. LOL


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#3831574 - 09/04/13 01:01 PM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Raw is correct. The extra footage mostly centers around Riddick's Furian past and his future.


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I hadn't heard much about "Chronicles" before catching it on cable one day, and I enjoyed the first part, and liked that it was its own universe, but there were a few things that bugged me. First, I'm not a big Vin Diesel fan, so I had to deal with that. Also, I am getting tired of stories that had a prophecized "The One" in them, and this was another one of those. And his background - Furian (Furyan?), like, he's full of fury. We get it, he's a bad @ss. That was just kind of cheesy.

I think the thing that bugged me most, though, was the ending, but I won't go into it here to avoid spoilers.

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I just didn't feel like Riddick beat the Lord Marshal fairly. If Vaako hadn't jumped in, Riddick would have died, and only killed him when he tried to get a weapon and get away from Vaako. Just didn't give me the feeling that Riddick was all he was cracked up to be. I'll also add that I think they completely wasted Judi Dench as well, but I hope she at least got a good paycheck out of it.


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#3831701 - 09/04/13 05:37 PM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Furian was his race, named after their planet. Just happens to be a cool name. LOL
The Purifier guy, you know, Batman's dad, was also a Furian.

The part added in the long edition is also kind of covered in Escape from Butcher Bay IIRC? I know they covered the eyes thing, wasn't the mystery chick shown there too? I could be wrong.
Dench was definitely an add casting. Also another path they could cover to explain who her people are.

I'm glad the mercs are back, and Katee should fit right in. IMO, the mercs, prisons etc are the coolest parts of the movies. I wish Nick Chinlund was coming back as Tooms, I thought he did a good job.


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#3831811 - 09/04/13 08:51 PM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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Nick Chinlund may be typecast often as bad guys but he's so compelling at it!!


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Back on track Oblivion exceeded the hype.Story for me was well written.

#3832639 - 09/06/13 07:18 AM Re: Oblivion [Re: Chucky]  
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That's half the fun. LOL
Agreed on Oblivion, glad I risked the blu-ray, movie unseen.


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Looks like I'll have to ignore my instincts and buy the Blu-Ray of this... biggrin

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Finally got around to seeing this, also a fan. I didn't expect much from it, but was pleasantly surprised. About the only issue I had with it was the few times I distractedly thought that Tom Cruise was probably having wayyy too much fun with the role considering his "Scientology" ideology.


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