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#3818207 - 08/04/13 01:26 PM Disney's "Planes"  
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/02/travel/disney-planes-film-bautista/index.html?hpt=hp_bn5


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Bautista, who has flown planes ranging from small Cessna's to fighter jets to Boeing 747 airliners, spoke with CNN from his home in California's central San Joaquin Valley about his work on "Planes," and he pulled back the curtain to reveal a few behind-the-scenes details.

CNN: What does this film offer adult aviation enthusiasts? What can they look forward to?

Sean Bautista: At a screening for aviation enthusiasts I went to, the general comments were that, in the air, it was probably the most accurate aviation movie they've seen. That includes animated and non-animated movies. But as you watch the movie after a while, I forgot they were airplanes. You get so into the story.


There is a lot more at the link. I quoted a small part of it to interest people enough into reading it.

Is this hype? Almost certain that it is. BUT, it definitely has potential. What I do like about it is that they screened the movie to flight enthusiasts first. I know very little about it and at times, it's hard for me to follow when we are discussing a flight accident. So some of the details they talk about really won't matter to much to me, but to others of you, it will help with the immersion.

After reading the article, I am intrigued enough to watch it.


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#3818215 - 08/04/13 02:03 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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I've been seeing the promos on TV, looks like a fun movie.


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#3818219 - 08/04/13 02:09 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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The key to getting these things right is hiring the right people to advise, and then paying attention to what they tell you. People will assume that because Planes is a 'cartoon' it's not going to be realistic, but take a look at the trailer and see if there's much wrong with it...



I'm far from being an aviation expert but it all looks pretty good to me.

Compare it with supposedly 'realistic' movies such as the utter farce which is Behind Enemy Lines...


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I've never seen Behind Enemy Lines and I sure won't be bothering any time soon after seeing that.


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#3818259 - 08/04/13 04:29 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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I'm just dismayed that after years of working with Pixar on it, Jon Cryer at the last minute was replaced by Dane Cook. Serious WTF? moment there.




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#3818289 - 08/04/13 05:34 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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#3818297 - 08/04/13 06:09 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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I have quite a few aviator friends on Facebook and they commented about the preview at Oshkosh, Kyle Franklin said if you enjoyed "Cars" and you're into aviation you are going to love "Planes".

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#3818303 - 08/04/13 06:41 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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The perspective they chose, showing those CGI planes as if filmed from real ground or on-board cameras ( with zooms, panning, lens compression effects and so forth... ) certainly helps give it a realistic feel. Ironically, the flight scenes from what is "just" a cartoon DO look far better than Flyboys or Red Tails, which took themselves seriously...

Check IMDB for who's voicing the two main Navy Jets featured in the trailer. That alone is an excellent reason to go see this movie biggrin

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#3818306 - 08/04/13 06:49 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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Hard to tell on that cast list which characters are which planes, but I'll take a wild guess that the Navy jets are Echo and Bravo.

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#3818317 - 08/04/13 07:30 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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I loved Cars when it came out, nevermind it being realistic. Talking cars? If I was willing to accept that, then I could live with Lightning jumping off of the tires of an inverted car biggrin

I know I'm gonna like Planes as well.... and not just me. Getting ready to soak up some merchandise, particularly those F-18s. Funny enough, we just came from a car-boot sale and picked up a drawing board for my 4 year old. He loves it as it has a "Cars" design.

I was kinda starting out on my flight sim learning when Behind Enemy Lines came out and even then, I knew they just did too much maneuvering to defeat the missile. I remember thinking then "WTF? Pull UP to defeat a missile?" Now that I'm watching it again, those pilots were pussies. "Holy #%&*$#! We're being painted!" Seriously? If it was an IR missile, they'd never know it was coming unless they were able to see the launch. If it was a radar-guided missile (due to them knowing about a launch), then they were idiots for deploying flares.


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As for Comparisons to Behind Enemy Lines and Top Gun.....

I take it no one saw the original Release Trailer 2 years ago?





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#3818351 - 08/04/13 09:17 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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I think it was just evil of them to release the trailer so early. The one I saw said "Coming to Theatres Next Summer"


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I think that really reflects on the sorry state of aviation films when a cartoon about anthropomorphic planes is the most realistic in depicting flight...


I refuse to buy a flight sim that I have no interest in playing, on the off chance that MAYBE someday they'll make the one I really want to play.

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Originally Posted By: Destructis
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/02/travel/disney-planes-film-bautista/index.html?hpt=hp_bn5


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Bautista, who has flown planes ranging from small Cessna's to fighter jets to Boeing 747 airliners, spoke with CNN from his home in California's central San Joaquin Valley about his work on "Planes," and he pulled back the curtain to reveal a few behind-the-scenes details.

CNN: What does this film offer adult aviation enthusiasts? What can they look forward to?

Sean Bautista: At a screening for aviation enthusiasts I went to, the general comments were that, in the air, it was probably the most accurate aviation movie they've seen. That includes animated and non-animated movies. But as you watch the movie after a while, I forgot they were airplanes. You get so into the story.


There is a lot more at the link. I quoted a small part of it to interest people enough into reading it.

Is this hype? Almost certain that it is. BUT, it definitely has potential. What I do like about it is that they screened the movie to flight enthusiasts first. I know very little about it and at times, it's hard for me to follow when we are discussing a flight accident. So some of the details they talk about really won't matter to much to me, but to others of you, it will help with the immersion.

After reading the article, I am intrigued enough to watch it.


Ever seen the Pixar film The Incredibles? In it there is a scene when a lear jet looking aircraft is targeted by some SAMs. One of the most realistic scenes depicting radio protocol in that senario ever.


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The Incredible`s was an Excellent disney movie. Loved it. Will be getting Planes when it released on Blu-Ray.
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#3818445 - 08/05/13 02:44 AM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: Destructis]  
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I rolled into a Disney store to find those Plastic Eggs with the 'Cars' in them for my son. However, I came out with Skipper instead. biggrin


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I saw those at HEB today, wanted one for myself lol!


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Originally Posted By: Rudel
I rolled into a Disney store to find those Plastic Eggs with the 'Cars' in them for my son. However, I came out with Skipper instead. biggrin



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#3818546 - 08/05/13 01:25 PM Re: Disney's "Planes" [Re: HogDriver]  
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I think that really reflects on the sorry state of aviation films when a cartoon about anthropomorphic planes is the most realistic in depicting flight...


I can't say I agree. Real film is not abstract enough to depict flight as it is feels to the flyer. Film invariably records flight as a technical, mechanical endeavor as of course it is. But to the flyer these things are secondary to flight itself. The greatest aviation writer of all time, Antoine de St. Exupery, rarely wrote about flight as a mechenical experience. Often the airplane disappeared entirely and the reader was left with only the joy and fear of flying. Miyazaki never touched the controls of a plane, but his anime film Laputa nails how flying feels to me. Film is just too literal to do it justice.

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