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#3815973 - 07/30/13 12:47 AM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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Very nice vid, by the way.


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#3815984 - 07/30/13 01:32 AM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: OlofK]  
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Originally Posted By: ATAG_Kling


No, that's the sound of one gun. You have to have 8 going at once,
something you can try to do with audio mixing tools, but it will
never be quite the same as the real thing. The thing is, 8 guns
ripping out of phase to each other are going to make a sound which
is necessarily less subjectively loud than a single gun, simply because
of the mechanics of the density patterns generated in the air,
and the way our perception of sound works, especially recorded sounds.
A lot of the subjective cues for loudness get washed out by too
much sound.

If you've ever worked in a very loud industrial environment, you'll
know what I mean. A fairly low energy region with a few widely
distributed machines banging away sounds very loud, though you
can manage to talk over/between the noise. The loudest room I was
ever in was a paper machine with a roll about 35ft across, with
the paper travelling such that it was winding up on a 1.5m diameter
roll at around 1200rpm. The white noise was such that the room
seemed almost silent, just a big whoosh, only you could yell at the
top of your lungs and barely hear your own voice. Vocal communication
was completely impossible.

#3816062 - 07/30/13 10:33 AM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: PV1]  
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXTygby2hS0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Originally Posted By: PV1
Originally Posted By: ATAG_Kling


No, that's the sound of one gun. You have to have 8 going at once,
something you can try to do with audio mixing tools, but it will
never be quite the same as the real thing. The thing is, 8 guns
ripping out of phase to each other are going to make a sound which
is necessarily less subjectively loud than a single gun, simply because
of the mechanics of the density patterns generated in the air,
and the way our perception of sound works, especially recorded sounds.
A lot of the subjective cues for loudness get washed out by too
much sound.

If you've ever worked in a very loud industrial environment, you'll
know what I mean. A fairly low energy region with a few widely
distributed machines banging away sounds very loud, though you
can manage to talk over/between the noise. The loudest room I was
ever in was a paper machine with a roll about 35ft across, with
the paper travelling such that it was winding up on a 1.5m diameter
roll at around 1200rpm. The white noise was such that the room
seemed almost silent, just a big whoosh, only you could yell at the
top of your lungs and barely hear your own voice. Vocal communication
was completely impossible.

Sure but im not sure what that has to do with the video i posted...
Of course its only one MG and as i said, imagine 8 of those firing at the same time and overlapping each other.
It wont sound as machineguns anymore but more like tearing fabric.

Here is a link to what tearing fabric sounds like. (THE LINK ENDS UP ON TOP OF THIS POST FOR SOME REASON NO MATTER WHAT I DO)


I can really imagine what they mean when they said the sound came close to this.
Regards

#3816066 - 07/30/13 11:19 AM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: PV1]  
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Originally Posted By: PV1
Originally Posted By: ATAG_Kling


No, that's the sound of one gun. You have to have 8 going at once,
something you can try to do with audio mixing tools, but it will
never be quite the same as the real thing. The thing is, 8 guns
ripping out of phase to each other are going to make a sound which
is necessarily less subjectively loud than a single gun, simply because
of the mechanics of the density patterns generated in the air,
and the way our perception of sound works, especially recorded sounds.
A lot of the subjective cues for loudness get washed out by too
much sound.

If you've ever worked in a very loud industrial environment, you'll
know what I mean. A fairly low energy region with a few widely
distributed machines banging away sounds very loud, though you
can manage to talk over/between the noise. The loudest room I was
ever in was a paper machine with a roll about 35ft across, with
the paper travelling such that it was winding up on a 1.5m diameter
roll at around 1200rpm. The white noise was such that the room
seemed almost silent, just a big whoosh, only you could yell at the
top of your lungs and barely hear your own voice. Vocal communication
was completely impossible.


That's not a good example though. You are standing in a building and the sound is traveling through the air, you are also not moving.

In an aircraft the sound you hear from the guns will have traveled through the airframe and will sound muffled. It's not the same as if you are standing next to 8 .303 guns in a warehouse.


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#3816067 - 07/30/13 11:27 AM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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Originally Posted By: JG5_Emil
What res do you run at Spectre?

1680x1050

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#3816082 - 07/30/13 12:24 PM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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I think you might get away with it. I'd ask on the ATAG forum about the lowest specs you need.


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#3816097 - 07/30/13 01:34 PM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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Thanks, Emil, will do.

#3816341 - 07/30/13 10:04 PM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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This vid along with a few others got me interested again. The TF mod brings a lot of fun back into things. After having played IL2 ad naseum, I'm having a good time just learning to fly in CloD all over again.


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#3816372 - 07/30/13 11:25 PM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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I could never play the old IL2 again after CLOD. This sim is now brilliant smile


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#3816409 - 07/31/13 01:16 AM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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Here are several attempts at getting an accurate browning sound,
along with a few very old ones left over from Rowan BoB1 and
mods thereto. A few of the newest ones were done using the
real gun sound posted in this thread multilayered with audio
editors. There have been several more versions posted at
the A2A BoB2 forum since I made this summary, including more
by Boreas, who continues to seek the perfect version. These
are just .wav files and can be played in any player. They
are mostly only a second or two long:

http://www3.telus.net/v1ncent/bob/Brownings.rar
http://www3.telus.net/v1ncent/bob/GunbrwnEdit2PV_Dec2011.wav

#3816430 - 07/31/13 02:36 AM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: PV1]  
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Nice sounds!

I suggest that you contact ATAG_Slipstream on the ATAG forum, he is the one responsible for the Team Fusion mods!

Regards
Kling

#3816502 - 07/31/13 09:33 AM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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Umm, the provenance of these files is that they were submitted
by (at least five different) users as mods for the Browning
sound in BoB2, and none of them are my work, except the single
file with my name on it, which is just a tweak to one of Boreas'.
Thus, while I don't feel constrained in pointing them out to individual
readers, I don't feel I have any right to present them to a modding
group for another sim for inclusion in their release. I would
say that if they were felt to be of interest by anyone, it would be
appropriate to ask permission of the original authors, where possible,
to incorporate them into their published offering; I can provide a
pointer to the A2A user names, at least. I would expect they would
get a positive response.

#3820758 - 08/10/13 03:58 PM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: FS_Lewis]  
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Player 1 "Is anyone on my six?"
Player zooms in and on screen are two planes..one closing on the other..
Player 2 "No"
..........

Player 2 "Oh yes there..." Blam blam "..is"



Player 1 "I've been hit"


Enjoyed that!:)

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#3820775 - 08/10/13 04:37 PM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: PV1]  
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This sound is very similar with (British) MG sound when game was released.

Sokol1

#3820886 - 08/10/13 10:59 PM Re: Very impressed with Cliffs Of Dover [Re: Wodin]  
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Originally Posted By: Wodin
Player 1 "Is anyone on my six?"
Player zooms in and on screen are two planes..one closing on the other..
Player 2 "No"
..........

Player 2 "Oh yes there..." Blam blam "..is"



Player 1 "I've been hit"


Enjoyed that!:)


All in the name of fun!!!...hehe

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