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#3807826 - 07/11/13 01:25 AM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Brennus]  
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Originally Posted By: Brennus
Greatest game of all time or biggest disappointment, it could really go either way. But, I made a contribution w/ my wallet, so I sleep well knowing I made a contribution.

I reckon it's going to be neither. It's just going to be passable upon release with content added along the way making it's universe richer - but that will only happen with time.

In short it's just going to be another MMO type game with MMO type problems. I'll still play it but doubt it's going to be what the hype makes it out to be.

#3807829 - 07/11/13 01:46 AM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Everyone keeps saying there is nothing out there and its just good pr. But they do have a playable demo that supports up to 16 players and you can walk around the bengal and watch the action or jump in a fighter. There is no video of it but if you are a paying member and you set up an appointment you can go down to their studio and play it.

They have a lot more than what everyone thinks they have and they better with less than 6 months till the dogfight module comes out.

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#3807839 - 07/11/13 02:14 AM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Which, at the moment is nothing really. We don't even have gameplay videos as you've said.

Don't get me wrong I know it's not vaporware, not for $15 million but it's not going to be all that it's cracked up to be upon release either.

So people that have pledged hundreds of $ into it are really taking a leap of faith, which to me doesn't sound too solid considering we know nothing about the gameplay. But it's only a thought in passing as it's not my money and I'm not one to tell people how they should spend their money.

#3812496 - 07/21/13 05:37 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Brennus]  
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Originally Posted By: Brennus
Greatest game of all time or biggest disappointment, it could really go either way. But, I made a contribution w/ my wallet, so I sleep well knowing I made a contribution.


I also sleep well knowing you made a contribution, I'll contribute when the game is out, maybe...night night :-)

#3814330 - 07/25/13 09:56 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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It's totally crazy how much some people have spent on it already...a fool and his money is easily parted.

#3814552 - 07/26/13 01:10 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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and yet without those fools this game would not ever have been made. If every one of the unique backers only bought the 30 dollar game (or even the 60 dollar upgrade) they would not have covered enough money during the KS campaign to make the game.

So if you have any interest in playing this game (at any price) those fools allowed you to make this game. And if the ship prices were cheaper, again, they would not have made enough to play this game.

Most of the people who backed the game and gave lots of money didnt do it for the perks. LTI is almost useless to be honest because they have stated time and time again that in game insurance wont cost much. They did it because this is the first space game in a long time that actually is doing what we have wanted in a space game for years.

So you can slag it all you want but if the price was cheaper there wouldnt be a game and without those fools there would not be a game. If you dont like it just wait for the game to officially release at a standard price. No one is forcing anyone to pay high prices. We did it because we have faith and want this game to be made.

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#3815110 - 07/27/13 05:32 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Hey Wodin- the solution is simple. You don't have to pay anything, and you don't have to play it.

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#3815140 - 07/27/13 08:14 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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I have over stepped the mark saying that..sorry..I just wouldn't nor could I afford to plump down say $200 on a game that hasn't been made yet. I'm sure over the years many many games have either been stopped after loads of work was done as it turned out to be unplayable or not fun for many many reasons, even games that sound great on paper and spring from great minds have probably been scrapped. Infact I bet more games haven't reached the shelves than have and then take in how many games have sounded amazing..only to end up mediocre or worse..Thats why I couldn't risk that sort of money on a game that hasn't been completed. Great artists, great directors and great game developers make rubbish, but mainly decent to good and then just a handful if that are classics, even though I bet the intentions for all those games\films etc where to make the best they'd ever make.

I actually hope it does well. Also no doubt at some point in the future I will pick it up, as I said the only issue I have with it is the insurance thing which to me is abit of a scam.

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#3815144 - 07/27/13 08:29 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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But you could manage 30$, right? That's the price of the digital scout package, which gives you a digital download of Squadron 42, Star Citizen and an RSI Aurora spacecraft.

IIRC the Aurora LX package was 25$, and gave the LX with LTI and Alpha and Beta access, with 2000 game credits and a few other perks.

#3815148 - 07/27/13 08:37 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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I'm a disabled single dad so money is always tight and I really have to be sure before I spend money on myself..but I'm sure I will pick it up on release.

#3815151 - 07/27/13 08:48 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Ah, OK. Always save money first and spend from what's left, and find where it's easiest to cut back. But that's common knowledge and not nice to hear when there's no wiggle room.

#3815234 - 07/28/13 02:31 AM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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You are exactly correct Wodin and I feel the same way about it. I hope it is good and I want to give them a chance to be good but at the end of the day I give them about a 20% chance of making something special. (no offence) but the money I put down on it is completely written off and if they went under I would not care at this point. But... if they do make that 20% and make a really good game then I will be very happy that I was able to help fund it and give them the opportunity to do it.

Are the prices high... yes they are and I feel for everyone who cant afford 250 bucks for a single ship (some of the higher end ships) but is it overprices? No, it is priced where it needs to be for them to have even remotely a chance to succeed.


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#3815392 - 07/28/13 04:51 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Wouldn't it suck to own a high end ship, but it takes you a year to build up to the rank and/or skills that allow you to use it? LOL
That would be pretty much par for the course in games like this. Even if not going the military route, you should have to know what you're doing before taking over a big ship, not to mention crew it and afford to pay the crew.


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#3815400 - 07/28/13 05:06 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Can someone please explain something to me about Kickstarter?

I think I understand the principle that a developer uses it to 'collect' money for their gaming project.

When you make a 'donation' is that money taken from your account there and then?

If so,what happens if the game never materialises,is that money 'lost'?


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#3815405 - 07/28/13 05:23 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Yes it is lost chucky. When you back a project you enter your Amazon account but they dont take any money from you until the project succeeds. If the project does not make it's goal then no money is taken. If it does meet it's goal then and only then do they deduct the money.

But there is no guarantee you will get anything. You are basically making a non taxable donation to the company and they are under no legal obligation to provide you with anything they promised.

I have only been burned once on KS though and it was for a piece of hardware. I got the hardware but it was like buying an alpha version of an intricate hardware piece. It never worked well and it went into the garbage.


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#3815412 - 07/28/13 05:52 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Thanks for the reply Master.So is there no regulation by KS itself then?

That would make me very wary of making a 'donation'. Maybe not to someone like Chris Roberts with his track record but small Indie companies for sure.

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#3815413 - 07/28/13 05:52 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Chucky]  
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#3815415 - 07/28/13 05:56 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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I suspect there will be a slew of KS campaigns running away with the money. The thing is projects take so long to do it will be a while before they start showing up. I have no doubt there will be plenty of projects that rip off the donors. Probably small projects with low goals they can quickly meet, then run and it will be a year before anyone even knows it.
That's the problem I have with it. I've tried it once, with a group that wanted to make a sequel to a game I really like. I wouldn't do it for a nobody.


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#3815431 - 07/28/13 06:36 PM Re: Is Star Citizen too expensive? [Re: Ark]  
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Yeah. It's hard to trust someone without a track record.

I think the only reason this kickstarter has been so successful is because of Chris Roberts.


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Yeah. It's hard to trust someone without a track record.

I think the only reason this kickstarter has been so successful is because of Chris Roberts.


That and also the lack of any new space sims in over a decade.
The succes was also the platform for more new space sims announcements, either small or "big" projects, lis Elite:Dangerous or Limit Theory,


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