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#3794710 - 06/11/13 04:42 AM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Well Kudos to Sony for making the move and actually listening to what gamers want. For many, it doesn't matter if Microsoft matches every point of Sony's console...it's too little too late and they will remember how MS tried to shake down their wallets. I will most definitely pick up a PS4.

Keep in mind I'm someone that switched over from the PS1 to the Xbox and I currently have 3 Xbox 360's in my house.


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#3794801 - 06/11/13 12:07 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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going to sell my ps3 this week while its worth something. PS4 will be next.

And BF4 is already preordered charge


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#3794888 - 06/11/13 02:36 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: Force10]  
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Originally Posted By: Force10


Well Kudos to Sony for making the move and actually listening to what gamers want. For many, it doesn't matter if Microsoft matches every point of Sony's console...it's too little too late and they will remember how MS tried to shake down their wallets. I will most definitely pick up a PS4.

Keep in mind I'm someone that switched over from the PS1 to the Xbox and I currently have 3 Xbox 360's in my house.



Im not gonna bail over DRM and Kinect... since my internet is always on, and even if it goes off, I'll just tether my phones wifi to the xbox.

For people that dont have internet always on and stuff, then yeah, I'd be like *F U MS!

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#3794946 - 06/11/13 03:47 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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The Division looks excellent! At least Ubi do bring out different twists on genres instead of the usual. Watchdogs for instance.



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#3795040 - 06/11/13 06:10 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
That's what the publishers have said, $50, Sony saw the outcry when MS Announced it and removed it.


Doubtful. SONY simply isn't nimble enough to turn around a major business policy like that. Chances are they planned it this way from day one.

MS is having to do a MAJOR overhaul to XBL in order to support new features, including the Online requirement. SONY probably didnt want to deal with all that BS. Wont surprise me if they leave this in the publishers hands, which has the potential to be even worse:

In theory, a sim city 4 type scenario (ie, not enough server bandwidth for all the pre-order holders to play on day 1) wouldnt happen with the 360, as XBL will (allegedly) be shouldering the server load. If pubs are left to their own devices (Im looking at you, EA) then youre at their mercy for used game pricing and such as well. We shall see if MS makes good here.

Also, lets not forget, Sony also seemed like the champion of the nerd world when it promised backwards compatibility, and the ability to install Linux as major PS3 Features. Then, half way through the product cycle they decided to pull both.


Having said all that, I plan to pre-order both via amazon. They dont charge till shipping, so you can cancel without being charged. This gives one a chance to voice their concerns to Sony/MS. I can cancel my XBO order for example, and put do not agree with always-online policy as the reason why I choose to cancel my order.

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#3795080 - 06/11/13 06:44 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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I'd like to point out some random things from interviews.

Sony's Press Conference said no restrictions on games, etc.

Interview with CEO said the DRM is there if the Publishers want to use it.

Microsoft said it will be there for Publishers if they want to use it.

If none of the publishers want to use it, then the 24/hour DRM refresh is no longer important.


hopefully MS Changes this DRM Time frame to something like 30 days, or just remove the Online DRM Requirement. Let users do whatever with the game.

I think it comes down to Publishers, if they dont Enforce the DRM, then it's most likely not gonna be a problem, no DRM, no Need to check every 24 hours.

MS isnt forcing the publishers to use it, and now, with the outcry from consumers, I doubt the Publishers will,


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#3795178 - 06/11/13 09:29 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Got to see the PS4 and Xbox One. Very nice. The Motorsports guys will have some more info on Forza 5 and GT6 - but I thought they sure were purty.

Talked with Brice from Hauppauge re: their HD recorders. They're marketed for recording console video, but can record HD video from PCs as well! Very cool.

Also got to talk with Christian Allen from 505 Games about Takedown: Sabre. We grilled them about the "tactical" aspects of their shooter. I'll have more later tonight.


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#3795186 - 06/11/13 09:46 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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If neither system lets me use my G27, then it doesn't need to go any further than that to begin with. wink


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#3795262 - 06/12/13 12:42 AM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
I'd like to point out some random things from interviews.

Sony's Press Conference said no restrictions on games, etc.
Interview with CEO said the DRM is there if the Publishers want to use it.


You do know that this is the same as PS3 right?

When I start GranTurismo5 it checks in with PSN to see if I was sent any cars as gifts, it sees if I was on already today and if not it gives me a random money and paint color gift, if PSN is offline or my network is down it tells me that to get a better experience login to PSN, if they wanted to it could check DRM/

So Sony's CEO basically said PS4 is just like PS3 as far as DRM, if the game implementer wants to use something they can... Microsoft was the one that was talking up their new always-on requirements as no big deal and their 24hour offline limit for singleplayer games and is now backing up when they see that Sony was not as dumb, but Sony's system as described by the CEO is no change from the current PS3 one, where it is up to the game publisher to do something more.

Seems like you're thinking it is some sort of backslide where to me it doesn't seem any different than what was already said and what PS3 has, unlike Microsoft's new DRM requirements.


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#3795300 - 06/12/13 01:51 AM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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GREAT discussion with MadCatz with regards to controllers for flight sims. I'm hoping we'll see some exciting official press releases in the near future. Also got to talk with PlaySeat about their Flight Sim seat.

Connectivity here is completely abysmal. I don't even know if this post will go through. Tweets are hard to make real time, let alone upload pics and videos. We're wrapping up in the hospitality lounge and will be headed back to the hotel to give a more detailed dump.

We have appointments for Occulus VR and Zeiss Cinemizer tomorrow as well as Bohemia. I already got a sneak peek at the new Take On product, Take On Mars: clearly a labor of love with amazing visuals, but I'm not sure how much of a "sim" it's going to be. I'll find out more tomorrow.


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#3795436 - 06/12/13 11:51 AM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Day 1 report, thanks EinsteinEP!

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#3795556 - 06/12/13 03:29 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Someone looks out of place in that last shot, lol..

Last time I went, I was trying to get Contact info from some of the booth babes


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#3795588 - 06/12/13 04:14 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Fanatec Confirms they are working on Making CSR Wheels Compatible with next gen consoles.

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We are working on a lot of stuff but our main target is to make the existing wheels compatible with next gen consoles!


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#3795604 - 06/12/13 04:33 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Glimpse of new Thrustmaster wheel at 00:22, Better view at 3:22, Pedals Just before that.





Einstein, Goto the Turn10 Tent, Give it a try and test the FFB etc.

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#3795683 - 06/12/13 05:57 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Before anyone goes crazy about the design. This isnt the final product.

#3795684 - 06/12/13 06:05 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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that's why is says "DEMO HARDWARE" on it... lol..


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#3795698 - 06/12/13 06:32 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I never watched the vid. lol. I heard some guy say it the other day on an e3 feed.

#3795713 - 06/12/13 06:48 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Dan Greenawalt said they had it at their booth, but it was still in early development form.


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#3795731 - 06/12/13 07:17 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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looking for clarification... SimHQ guys there at E3...

BF3 on the Xbox 360 is 720p, (while CoD: BO2 is 1080p which I was not aware of, intresting)...

My Q. BF4 on Xbox 360 will be 720p or 1080p? What about on Xbox One/PS4? 1080p... all games coming to next gen at 1080p?

Reason I ask, still deciding but if i forgo the Xbox One and PS4 all together, how will BF4 play on 360.


OT: I've been thinking... no exclusive for either the ONE or PS4, really bites at me... sure I'd like to try Titan Fall or something... but the exclusive I wanted most for Xbox One , FM5... may (or may not) screw me and my $800 Fanatec wheel/pedal system... don't want it if I have to use a gamepad or buy a new wheel.... as for GT what 6? it's coming out on PS3... so really... why do i need next gen console... as of right now I don't see it... save me 900 bucks. wink

just thinking outloud here, still deciding on anything and everything... Thank god for PC, Windows 7, SB Pro PE and DCS... thats all I need. wink
OK, maybe some Combat Mission... OK, some AirLand Battle... OK... maybe some CoD2 and/or Rome 2... but thats all I need... OK, maybe back into iRacing again... but thats it! Thats all I need. wink

#3795735 - 06/12/13 07:29 PM Re: SimHQ at E3 2013 [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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All Xbox One Games are 1080p

As For BF4, I'd prefer to run it on my PC 3 Screens is better than 1.


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