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#3779312 - 05/08/13 05:13 PM The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne  
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These people simply exploit human vulnerability and in this case, make a living off the tragedy of others.

http://gma.yahoo.com/psychic-said-amanda...topstories.html

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"We've never had a psychic lead that turns out to be correct," said Lt. Dave Parker, of the Anchorage, Alaska, police department, after 18-year-old Samantha Koenig went missing in February, 2012.


They use cold reading techniques and employ basic common sense- that is, if a child is missing over a certain amount of time, the chances are increased they won't ever be found alive, most people are killed within a certain radius of their homes, so when the psychic correctly 'predicts' these scenarios, it seems to some people they really have these powers of mystical insight. There's nothing to them. It's unfortunate that grieving people looking for answers can still be taken in by this.


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#3779316 - 05/08/13 05:16 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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"psychic-fraud" seems redundant

#3779318 - 05/08/13 05:19 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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Pretty much- maybe redundancy can reinforce what a con job that industry is.


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#3779322 - 05/08/13 05:27 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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Where there's a need there's a profit. Sure they're pretty much con artists, but there's boobs out there that'll pay for the service too!

In this case, money that would have probably been a lot more efficiently spent on search equipment and staff.


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#3779324 - 05/08/13 05:31 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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There are some who refuse to believe that their loved one is gone. I think this may be one way that they cope. And of course there are many willing and able soothsayers who avail themselves of the situation.

Ambiguous references are a wide open stadium.. used fairly effectively by Nostradamus progenitors and the like. burnout


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#3779331 - 05/08/13 05:51 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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Isn't "psychic fraud" redundant?

edit: LOL!! I see Dunolde and I were separated at birth. biggrin

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#3779334 - 05/08/13 05:54 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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Originally Posted By: Kontakt5
Pretty much- maybe redundancy can reinforce what a con job that industry is.
Anyone stupid and naive enough to hire a psychic deserves to be ripped off.


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#3779357 - 05/08/13 06:41 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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There are some interesting cases where psychics have been used to determine locations of a murder scene or body. I am intimately familiar with one such case here in Ohio in the 90's involving officer Jack McCrady, who had killed his wife and buried her. Not saying these psychics are genuinely real, but certainly real enough to lead law enforcement to the correct area to retrieve a body.


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#3779382 - 05/08/13 07:18 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Originally Posted By: TerribleTwo
There are some interesting cases where psychics have been used to determine locations of a murder scene or body. I am intimately familiar with one such case here in Ohio in the 90's involving officer Jack McCrady, who had killed his wife and buried her. Not saying these psychics are genuinely real, but certainly real enough to lead law enforcement to the correct area to retrieve a body.

So, do you think it's kind of like that show "Psych"?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491738/

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#3779401 - 05/08/13 07:41 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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I've heard of a couple of cases where the psychic showed the police where to look for a body- I remember in at least one of these cases, it could have been based on nothing more than deductive reasoning. The body was located in the only secluded lake in that area, pretty much something a reasonable guess would conclude. If these psychics paid enough attention to crime statistics and forensic patterns, of course they can form educated guesses, which increase the probability of being right some times.

I don't think the majority of psychics really believe that they are psychic.


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#3779405 - 05/08/13 07:47 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Isn't "psychic fraud" redundant?

edit: LOL!! I see Dunolde and I were separated at birth. biggrin


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#3779408 - 05/08/13 07:50 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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Originally Posted By: Kontakt5
I don't think the majority of psychics really believe that they are psychic.
And the ones who believe they are psychic usually have some kind of neurosis or psychosis.


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#3779629 - 05/09/13 06:21 AM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: Kontakt5
I don't think the majority of psychics really believe that they are psychic.
And the ones who believe they are psychic usually have some kind of neurosis or psychosis.


Sometimes, but sometimes they are just that sort of gullible
person who is so gullible they can deceive themselves, especially
when they really really want to be good at something (and people
who are that gullible are often not terribly good at anything...).

#3779634 - 05/09/13 06:55 AM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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Is she the one that was exposed during this interview with Larry King? A young woman called in and she claimed that her mother looks upon her from the afterlife, after which the young woman said she was shocked because she had phoned her mother 10 minutes earlier or so.
Also, she still didn't react to James Randi's Million Dollar Challenge despite an earlier promise (in 2001!) that she would take part in it.
No need to feel pity for her or say she's a poor woman with a neurosis or so. She's a fraud.


There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the universe is for it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
#3779650 - 05/09/13 08:44 AM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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There are more vids with James Randi worth watching.


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#3779715 - 05/09/13 12:22 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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If they are psychic,make them walk across a mine field.

I'd pay to watch that popcorn


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#3779800 - 05/09/13 03:04 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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You can go to the James Randi Educational foundation, where he exposes all these frauds.

http://www.randi.org/site/

#3779804 - 05/09/13 03:09 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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Oh yeah,and James Randi ftw yep


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#3779898 - 05/09/13 05:04 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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Johnathan Edward demonstrating cold reading, the mark is actually supplying all the answers, the medium is just casting a fishing net with general provocations, discarding wrong or irrelevant responses and focusing on those which seem to be leading down the correct path. He even takes a wrong direction with the woman's father 'Robert', and then shifts direction and starts asking questions about the man's mother.





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#3779901 - 05/09/13 05:07 PM Re: The psychic fraud Sylvia Browne [Re: Kontakt5]  
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If psychics really had the powers they claim, why aren't they billionaires ? Seems gambling would be a sure thing for them.


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