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#3760432 - 03/31/13 07:23 PM F keys no longer work in Career mode  
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Salute, all!

In the wake of the latest patch, I can't seem to get my F keys (i.e., F2, F3, F4, etc.) to function in Career mode. Granted, I have only jumped into a new career that I launched last night with the new channel map...so I'm not sure if this is channel-map related or career-mode related. The F keys do work in Quick Missions.

Anybody else experiencing this?


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#3760436 - 03/31/13 07:40 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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Make sure you 'check' the allow spectators option in your settings..

#3760458 - 03/31/13 08:58 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Trooper117]  
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Thanks, Trooper...that fixed it! thumbsup


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#3760728 - 04/01/13 01:34 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Trooper117]  
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Originally Posted By: TROOPER117
Make sure you 'check' the allow spectators option in your settings..


Aha...so that was the difference. Been wondering about this myself. Thanks for the clarification.

#3761327 - 04/02/13 02:10 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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Is it just me or is "allow spectators" a rather odd way of classifying the function of those keys?

What about the proven and trusted term "external views"?


“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#3761333 - 04/02/13 02:18 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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I think it's a literal interpretation. The external view is like a spectator.




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#3761352 - 04/02/13 02:44 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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But he's right.. if it does the same function, why change something we are all familiar with? Talk about making a rod for their own backs!
On the RoF forums there has been post after post since the update with users wanting to know why the F keys don't work anymore.. plus the patch notes were extremely vague on explaining why or what the changes were...

#3761355 - 04/02/13 02:47 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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A term like "allow spectators" to me indicates a multiplayer setting where you want to allow people to join your server and be allowed to watch dogfights and not participate in them. That's something entirely different from enabling/disabling external views.


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#3761392 - 04/02/13 04:09 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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An odd choice of words to be sure.


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#3761504 - 04/02/13 06:29 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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I never would have guessed that until I saw this thread. I would fly in single player, hit some external view to watch my flyby in the new plane, only to not be able to get an outside view. Thing is if you created a track, then went back and watched the track, external view worked. I would keep checking my setting, trying to figure out why it was this way. Everything is in order now.

#3761992 - 04/03/13 05:58 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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Could this perhaps be the first indicator that 777 is planning MP in career??? Hmmmmm......






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#3762097 - 04/03/13 07:43 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Could this perhaps be the first indicator that 777 is planning MP in career??? Hmmmmm......


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Seems to me they should finish the SP campaign first.


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#3762145 - 04/03/13 08:41 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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It's strange sometimes how things work... Ref the channel map, I messaged Viks at 777 and he told me that we can't transfer our current standings and ranks achieved in our ongoing profile as the channel map is on a separate database!!!
This means that even though you have attained the highest rank, you have to go back to the start or lowest rank to play a career on the channel map! How mad and frustrating is that!
The good thing though, is if you use PWCG you can start at any level, choose the amount of activity you want to see at the front, fly for just about any squadron that actualy flew in the war, and even change from map to map as the sqaudrons changed locations.. this is something you can't even do in the official game, and Pat has put all of this together himself! Amazing!

#3762454 - 04/04/13 12:42 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Trooper117]  
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Originally Posted By: TROOPER117
It's strange sometimes how things work... Ref the channel map, I messaged Viks at 777 and he told me that we can't transfer our current standings and ranks achieved in our ongoing profile as the channel map is on a separate database!!!
This means that even though you have attained the highest rank, you have to go back to the start or lowest rank to play a career on the channel map! How mad and frustrating is that!
The good thing though, is if you use PWCG you can start at any level, choose the amount of activity you want to see at the front, fly for just about any squadron that actualy flew in the war, and even change from map to map as the sqaudrons changed locations.. this is something you can't even do in the official game, and Pat has put all of this together himself! Amazing!


Why they went w/ a separate DB is anyones guess but it doesn't look like a good decision in hindsight as now they can't be linked.

It is amazing what Pat has been able to acheive and he keeps improving it.


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#3762570 - 04/04/13 04:13 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Barkhorn1x]  
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Originally Posted By: Barkhorn1x
Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Could this perhaps be the first indicator that 777 is planning MP in career??? Hmmmmm......


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Seems to me they should finish the SP campaign first.


Negative. Co-op has been badly neglected during RoF's recent development. We can't get multiplayer careers soon enough. If they use the same mission generation scheme between SP and MP careers future fixes could be applied to both. Right now there is a gaping lack of Co-op missions especially with recently-released planes as flyable.

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#3762628 - 04/04/13 05:29 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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Bring back coop development!




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#3768929 - 04/17/13 01:06 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: enigma6584]  
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Yup about to post same problem thank thank you


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Had the coolest thing happen in quick mission. Collided with another plane and we were stuck together
for most of the way down to the ground. But because of this external view thing I couldn't get a pic of it frown

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#3768995 - 04/17/13 04:12 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Dumbo]  
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You mean like this?




#3769026 - 04/17/13 05:00 PM Re: F keys no longer work in Career mode [Re: Daze]  
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Originally Posted By: Daze
Had the coolest thing happen in quick mission. Collided with another plane and we were stuck together
for most of the way down to the ground. But because of this external view thing I couldn't get a pic of it frown


You can still record it, and take the pictures when (re-)playing the track.

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