#3765915 - 04/11/13 01:47 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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I don't get it . GRAVITEAM can do "hypothetical" for GTOS but not for SABoW? Sorry to call this one out but when some of us questioned andrey12345 awhile back about some new hypothetical campaigns for SABoW (because some of wanted to use the M60 in more then just ONE campaign) we were told GRAVITEAM does not do fantasy. So does this mean there is a change in this thinking and maybe SABoW might get a new campaign to use the M60 in? I'm sure hoping it might be so since everything that is in this new DLC looks to be already in SABoW except the actual campaign and map and a few odds and ends.
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#3765997 - 04/11/13 06:56 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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I don't get it . GRAVITEAM can do "hypothetical" for GTOS but not for SABoW? Sorry to call this one out but when some of us questioned andrey12345 awhile back about some new hypothetical campaigns for SABoW (because some of wanted to use the M60 in more then just ONE campaign) we were told GRAVITEAM does not do fantasy. So does this mean there is a change in this thinking and maybe SABoW might get a new campaign to use the M60 in? I'm sure hoping it might be so since everything that is in this new DLC looks to be already in SABoW except the actual campaign and map and a few odds and ends. I don't think Graviteam has any future plans for SABOW. From what I understand,the game didn't make a profit so they are channeling all their resources into the tactical games only and not making any more content for the tank sims.
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#3766000 - 04/11/13 07:03 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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I don't get it . GRAVITEAM can do "hypothetical" for GTOS but not for SABoW? Sorry to call this one out but when some of us questioned andrey12345 awhile back about some new hypothetical campaigns for SABoW (because some of wanted to use the M60 in more then just ONE campaign) we were told GRAVITEAM does not do fantasy. So does this mean there is a change in this thinking and maybe SABoW might get a new campaign to use the M60 in? I'm sure hoping it might be so since everything that is in this new DLC looks to be already in SABoW except the actual campaign and map and a few odds and ends. This DLC is based on a story, with small assumption that Iran has openly intervened in the combat in Afganistan, not hidden as it was in reality. Not fantasy like WW3 in Western Europe or somthing like this. For SABOW, publisher does not go on cooperation and communication, so while nothing definite I can't say.
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#3766474 - 04/12/13 12:52 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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I don't get it . GRAVITEAM can do "hypothetical" for GTOS but not for SABoW? Sorry to call this one out but when some of us questioned andrey12345 awhile back about some new hypothetical campaigns for SABoW (because some of wanted to use the M60 in more then just ONE campaign) we were told GRAVITEAM does not do fantasy. So does this mean there is a change in this thinking and maybe SABoW might get a new campaign to use the M60 in? I'm sure hoping it might be so since everything that is in this new DLC looks to be already in SABoW except the actual campaign and map and a few odds and ends. This DLC is based on a story, with small assumption that Iran has openly intervened in the combat in Afganistan, not hidden as it was in reality. Not fantasy like WW3 in Western Europe or somthing like this. For SABOW, publisher does not go on cooperation and communication, so while nothing definite I can't say. Andrey I have to respectfully disagree. If the new DLC is only based on a story of possibilities and then builds upon an assumption (even in the smallest degree) still makes it hypothetical since what is depicted in the DLC did not happen in any history book I have ever seen. Now if you want to break it down into varying degrees of hypothetical then okay this DLC is more plausible then WW3 in Western Europe. Guess it just best to agree to disagree Sad news for SABoW Was really hoping that GRAVITEAM would offer an alternative/companion to SB Pro in the armor genre but that's looking pretty bleak now .
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#3766485 - 04/12/13 01:11 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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Alas poor sabow. By last patch was quite good. Just needed more content. I think waiting for more sabow is unlikely unless made for FREE by someone. Even given tools that unlikly once you realise HOW much is needed to be none to do such. As sabow is owned not by Graviteam it means making new sim. I VOTE for ww2 US equipment LOL. 41-43 Now anyone have money to fund....lol SAbow meets ww2.....just gotta happen sometime..... Almost a give given SO many assets could be used from GTOS. Just the time to do tanks and stuff. Which is STILL a hell of alot. But base game and I mean BASE.....just some basic frame work and a DLC set up for future stuff if succesful. UNDER GRAVITEAM control........... and grqavi listens to good ole flash pants here. muahahah OK even if increased in cost by 50 to 100 percent over what SABOW was sold for I would buy.... BUT NOT as much as steel beasts... that is TOO high IMO for many to pull trigger on. But I don't know....49.99 sounds optimal for my wallet if it meant more tank goodness. A niche product sometimes is worth the extra bucks if good of course. hell take exra 10 buck part and fund multiplayer Even could do such as that with GTOS....make delux version....add something little extra and explain that is to fund new feature... I can not think some would not buy just for that.
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#3766627 - 04/12/13 09:27 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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Andrey I have to respectfully disagree. If the new DLC is only based on a story of possibilities and then builds upon an assumption (even in the smallest degree) still makes it hypothetical since what is depicted in the DLC did not happen in any history book I have ever seen. Now if you want to break it down into varying degrees of hypothetical then okay this DLC is more plausible then WW3 in Western Europe. Guess it just best to agree to disagree Sad news for SABoW Was really hoping that GRAVITEAM would offer an alternative/companion to SB Pro in the armor genre but that's looking pretty bleak now . It all makes more sense if you realise they're stripping existing content from SABOW - Soviet and Iranian equipment and units are already done, ready to use. That's not the case for NATO and Warsaw Pact units, that'd need extra time and expense...
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#3766660 - 04/12/13 11:46 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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What about a namechange for SABOW and have your own online-shop. It is a shame the way it is right now, would love to buy some SABOW DLC No we do not steal from other people's property.
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#3766664 - 04/12/13 11:54 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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Andrey I have to respectfully disagree. If the new DLC is only based on a story of possibilities and then builds upon an assumption (even in the smallest degree) still makes it hypothetical since what is depicted in the DLC did not happen in any history book I have ever seen.
I do not want to upset you, but in early 1979, Iranian militants staged an armed rebellion in the province of Herat, on their side of the 17 Infantry Division crossed from the government forces with heavy weapons. To suppress the rebellion only by using air support and armored vehicles. By the summer of 1979 the central government of Afghanistan control whether only five provinces, the rest were in the hands of the rebels. It was one of the reasons why the Soviet Union sent troops into Afghanistan - much already there raged rebels. http://mmg-kalai-naw.ucoz.ru/publ/1979_istorija_boevykh_dejstvij_v_rajone_kalaji_nau/1-1-0-30Do not write about it in the books, because it was marked and the U.S. support for the islamic rebels. Now if you want to break it down into varying degrees of hypothetical then okay this DLC is more plausible then WW3 in Western Europe. Guess it just best to agree to disagree Because it is based on real events. A WWIII in Europe is pure unscientific fantasy
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#3766666 - 04/12/13 11:57 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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That's not the case for NATO and Warsaw Pact units, that'd need extra time and expense... And come up with some sort of stories about why they suddenly began to fight without using nuclear weapons - we are not ready yet so deeply into fantasy Only one small step.
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#3766690 - 04/12/13 12:53 PM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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What about a namechange for SABOW and have your own online-shop. It is a shame the way it is right now, would love to buy some SABOW DLC No we do not steal from other people's property. Hi Andrey, you are right I don't have much knowledge in such things. But would be a future release (Graviteam Simulations :)) possible by selling the game on its own with a online shop for example?
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#3766695 - 04/12/13 01:19 PM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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What about a namechange for SABOW and have your own online-shop. It is a shame the way it is right now, would love to buy some SABOW DLC No we do not steal from other people's property. Hi Andrey, you are right I don't have much knowledge in such things. But would be a future release (Graviteam Simulations :)) possible by selling the game on its own with a online shop for example? No, we not have rights to sell and for game as whole.
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#3767115 - 04/13/13 11:17 AM
Re: Next Modern DLC for GTOS
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Yet,both NATO and the Warsaw Pact Alliance spent billions of dollars in tactical training maneuvers over the course of the cold war era in anticipation of the very same conflict you consider fantasy.I guess the money would have been better spent constructing fall out shelters and underground bomb proofs and training films on how to live in a nuclear wasteland.
I suspect the real reason for not wanting to make a DLC about a NATO vs Warsaw Pact battle is expense. The area where this conflict would take place is very populated and built up,so making a campaign map with all the different buildings and levels of destruction would be time consuming and expensive not to mention the whole battle most likely would be dominated by air and artillery assets not really much fun from a tactical stand point.
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