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#3763657 - 04/06/13 05:59 PM Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man..  
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#3763676 - 04/06/13 07:05 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. Above us only Sky. [Re: Biggles07]  
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Guy should still be alive. Such a shame.


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#3763698 - 04/06/13 08:40 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. Above us only Sky. [Re: No Name]  
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"I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals".

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#3763734 - 04/06/13 10:28 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. Above us only Sky. [Re: Biggles07]  
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I think you have to wait till Zefram Cochrane hits Warp 1.0 and the Vulcans get involved.

#3763739 - 04/06/13 10:47 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. Above us only Sky. [Re: U-96]  
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Duly noted.

hahaha


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#3763860 - 04/07/13 04:21 AM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Biggles07]  
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I've always found it a bit funny how a world famous RICH rockstar was singing a song wishing for a world with "no possessions".


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#3763875 - 04/07/13 05:03 AM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Biggles07]  
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As much as I am an admirer of Lennon, respected the man and what he stood for, there is just something desperately WRONG in wanting a world where everything is exactly the same for everybody. Sounds just a little too much like Communism and Stalinist Soviet Russia to me... or am I wrong?

#3764103 - 04/07/13 07:23 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Biggles07]  
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I drive/walk past Lennon's childhood home daily(as well as Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane)and still get a tingle.

I'm just an old sentimentalist most probably.


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#3764131 - 04/07/13 08:40 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Ziggy Sawdust]  
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Originally Posted By: Ziggy Sawdust
As much as I am an admirer of Lennon, respected the man and what he stood for, there is just something desperately WRONG in wanting a world where everything is exactly the same for everybody. Sounds just a little too much like Communism and Stalinist Soviet Russia to me... or am I wrong?


+1, well put, I also liked his music, but couldn't figure out how "We can all live together", in reality, when we're just all still a bunch of mixed up humans. Nice thought. But some will always want to dominate others, if allowed to.
Species problem. Evolutionary IMHO.

I can "Imagine" it, but that's about as far as it will ever go.


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#3764154 - 04/07/13 09:16 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Murphy]  
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Originally Posted By: Murphy
Originally Posted By: Ziggy Sawdust
As much as I am an admirer of Lennon, respected the man and what he stood for, there is just something desperately WRONG in wanting a world where everything is exactly the same for everybody. Sounds just a little too much like Communism and Stalinist Soviet Russia to me... or am I wrong?


+1, well put, I also liked his music, but couldn't figure out how "We can all live together", in reality, when we're just all still a bunch of mixed up humans. Nice thought. But some will always want to dominate others, if allowed to.
Species problem. Evolutionary IMHO.

I can "Imagine" it, but that's about as far as it will ever go.


Sadly, I must agree. A Utopian fantasy. A nice, wonderful fantasy however. Perhaps one day we will learn, and collectively get our act together. We must, because the 'end game' of our violence will be the end of everything. End of story.

That said, I do not subscribe to fatalism, and nothing is inevitable. This can be stopped if people have the will to do so. Won't be holding my breath, but I remain an Optimist. smile

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#3764170 - 04/07/13 09:54 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Biggles07]  
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We need Optimists Mr. Biggles. Glad to have you. smile


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#3764173 - 04/07/13 10:01 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Biggles07]  
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As my sig shows, I am very much in agreement with the late Beetle.


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#3764191 - 04/07/13 10:38 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I've always found it a bit funny how a world famous RICH rockstar was singing a song wishing for a world with "no possessions".


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#3764208 - 04/07/13 11:05 PM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Murphy]  
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Originally Posted By: Murphy


I can "Imagine" it, but that's about as far as it will ever go.
Once you have a world where every single person on the planet has the same economic status then maybe what you imagine could become a reality. wink


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#3764239 - 04/08/13 12:14 AM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Once you have a world where every single person on the planet has the same economic status then maybe what you imagine could become a reality. wink


Equal economic status isn't required as not everyone has the same economic needs or desires. I know some who are happy with little and want little more, and some who are happy with much and yet still want much more. And people who are miserable with both.

Everyone having enough to eat, clean water to drink, and a warm place to sleep would be a tremendous start. It would probably be a trememdous end as well.


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#3764247 - 04/08/13 12:24 AM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Biggles07]  
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We're talking economics here, but that wasn't what Lennon was writing about. He simply was saying how wonderful the world could be if we could get rid of all the things that made us hate each other. Borders, religions, money...etc. He knew it wouldn't happen as well as we all do. The song is a man dreaming out loud.


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#3764250 - 04/08/13 12:26 AM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
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I can "Imagine" it, but that's about as far as it will ever go.
Once you have a world where every single person on the planet has the same economic status then maybe what you imagine could become a reality. wink


Well, in my "imaginary" world, we're ALL rich, and have whatever and as much as we want.
As long as it doesn't interfere with someone else.
That's why it doesn't go very far, it's impossible.
But a nice thought.
Like, 'Why can't everyone just get along'....a nice thought, but it just doesn't work that way.


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#3764263 - 04/08/13 12:42 AM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Biggles07]  
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Biggles is an optimist, one of the reasons I enjoy his posts. He also has great musical taste!

The Imagine song...I like, but remember John married Yoko.

#3764274 - 04/08/13 01:13 AM Re: Imagine . Its easy if you try. No need for Greed or Hunger. A Brotherhood, of Man.. [Re: Biggles07]  
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John wasn't singing about a world that could happen tomorrow, or next year, or next decade, but rather one that he would've liked to have lived in.
As he said "you may say I'm a dreamer/but I'm not the only one/I hope some day you'll join us/and the world will live as one."
So if everyone could think like Lennon and his fellow hippie/flower power idealists did, it would be possible.

It will require a fundamental alteration in human behavior to make it happen, but there's no reason why such a thing CAN'T happen.

It's just very, very unlikely.




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