Thanks Jim and yeah I love old rifles, even the ones that you know will never be safe to shoot are still fun to clean up and hang on the wall.
I enjoy history and these rifles definately have that, the top two are about a 150 years old and the one on the bottom is about 130.
Murphy,
I've fired both the Enfields and they've functioned perfectly so far.
I decided to take your advice regarding that top one and just give it a very light cleaning on the metalwork and put it on the wall.
The bore on both rifles are good and about the same condition so I figured to use the parts rifle and replacement stock and build the shooter.
I still don't know if that 302 is a rack number or inventory number but I'm not going to desturb it.
Didn't take as long as I figured it would fitting the stock on the rebuild and just worked on it when I could spare a little time.
I doubt I have 30 hours total invested in the shooter so far, probably have 3 or 4 hours cleaning time in the Top one and about 8 hours on the Martini Henry on the bottom, that thing was really filthy.
I haven't shot the Martini Henry yet, still saving up for the brass which might as well be gold plated.
It's 62 bucks for 20 unprimed shell casings.
Since this is a Nepalese copy of the Martini Henry it isn't really wise to try shooting factory Martini Henry ammo, which is all for the best since it's 130 bucks for 20 rounds.
20 rounds, plus shipping, plus the Hazmat fee would cost more than I paid for the rifle to start with.
That 4th set of pegs if for a P-1864 Snider breech loader that I'm going to buy as soon as I can afford it.
That will complete the antique collection I want.
There are a few other rifles that would be interesting to have but they would require a considerable amount of work to bring back to life that I might not be able to do myself.
I looked at a Brown Bess musket, a Brunswick rifled musket and a smoothbore Brunswick all of which are upwards of 170 to 180 years old.
I could probably manage the woodwork but restoring the metalwork on these rifles would probably be too costly.
The parts can be had at the Rifle Shoppe for damn near any of these old muzzel loading rifles up to and including a complete museum quaility reproduction for about a grand.
You have a real British Martini Henry Archie?
This one is a M-1878 Francotte Pattern Martini Henry built in Nepal in the later 1880's.
The thing mechanically looks like it was never used and was packed full of the local version of cosmoline which kept rust and wood rot at bay for the last 130+ years.
Like I mentioned to Murphy, as soon as I can manage it I'm going to buy the brass and handload some black powder cartridges and take it to the range.
The bore is pristine and using the correct bullets I see no reason it wouldn't be just as accurate as any modern rifle, more so than some since the barrel is 33 inches long.
I wanted a 53' Enfield or 61' Springfield to go with my Civil War pistol replicas but the price on the real Civil War antiques obviously put them well out of my reach and surprisingly enough it turned out to be the same with the replicas of these rifles.
I bought my modest little collection of real antiques for less than the price of one of the Enfield replicas.
These aren't Civil War relics by any means but to me they are close enough.
Since getting into collecting these Nepalese rifles the only one left to complete the set is the Snider.
It's a 53' Enfield modified into a breechloader and shooting it would be relatively cheap.
It's also the bridge between the muzzelloading rifled muskets and the purpose built breechloading Martini Henry rifle copies.
Jim
If anybody is interested in looking into getting one of these, here are a couple of links, the prices are good and the deliveries are prompt.
One thing about these rifles is due to their age they are not considered firearms by the BATFE but rather relics and antiques.
In most instances they can be shipped right to your door without having to go through a firearms dealer but it varies in a few states.
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