#3736372 - 02/16/13 04:56 AM
Jammed Cannon with 4.11
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I have only just noticed that the guns on the F4U 1C will not fire at all if one is pulling any positive Gs. This seems to be a new "feature" of TD 4.11. Is this supposed to be based on some historical data or is it something they just thought "should" occur? The guns on the Zero sure don't jam when pulling Gs.
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#3736781 - 02/17/13 06:30 AM
Re: Jammed Cannon with 4.11
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I did do a bit of research on this and it seem that pilots preferred the six 50's over the four 20mm's. They were much more reliable and were more than enough to deal with any Japanese aircraft. Having said that, there was no specific mention of them being completely disabled by G forces, like we now have in game, just that they tended to jam. They came to be used mainly as a ground attack weapon, rather than for dogfighting. At the time they were mostly used they were intended to bring down Kamikaze aircraft quickly- since even a plane with a dead pilot could still crash into it's intended target, it was considered important to be able to cause enough damage to the airframe to make it crash right away.
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#3736963 - 02/17/13 06:21 PM
Re: Jammed Cannon with 4.11
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But the sad reality was that most operational aircraft were flying at less than peak efficiency most of the time, and failures were common. An AI prone to takeoff/landing accidents would also be nice. Can't be the only one erecting "Fliegerdenkmäler" (i.e. aircraft with the spinner in the dirt) out there...
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#3738060 - 02/19/13 02:20 PM
Re: Jammed Cannon with 4.11
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Oh...and what about jamming due to the cold of the high altitude that the early escorts experienced when the Mustangs first started their long range missions eh? Regards Mailman
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#3738258 - 02/19/13 07:22 PM
Re: Jammed Cannon with 4.11
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There were high-altitude/freezing issues with cannons, which is one reason the P-38 was judged unsuitable for high-altitude escort duties. The same problem caused the F4U 1C to be relegated to lower-altitude ground pounding missions. I always thought the early jamming issues with the Mustang's 50 cals. were caused by the guns being installed at an angle in order to fit them within a thinner wing? This caused the belt feed mechanism to sometimes jam when pulling Gs. The problem was solved in later versions, which had a slightly thicker wing, allowing the guns to be placed upright. The Browning 50 cal was a very well designed, extremely reliable gun, unlike the US licence-built 20mm, which somehow never equaled the British made cannon they were based on.
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#3738907 - 02/20/13 08:30 PM
Re: Jammed Cannon with 4.11
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Could be right. Perhaps some more knowledgable soul will weigh in.
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#3739745 - 02/22/13 03:42 AM
Re: Jammed Cannon with 4.11
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Yeah, Neal, I agree. HC puts out some pretty suspect information. Good place to keep up with the latest "space aliens helped the Nazis" theories, though.
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#3739869 - 02/22/13 02:43 PM
Re: Jammed Cannon with 4.11
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Any reason why? You don't want two out of the eight rockets on your tempest to be duds?? Think of the excitement!!
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Exodus
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