Well, going on history now ED has never had a paid beta over a year.

I'm not saying they will be polished, perfect products, BTW, just that ED will say "they're final!"
You know, like the releases of Red Orchestra 2 and Il-2:CloD were when THEY were final...




The Jedi Master

Is the Mig-21 DCS or is it a 3rd party?

The contents pages are back to front and at the end of the PDF Flanders hehe, look for page 221 with adobe or similar (actual manual page 215-Adobe thumbnail number 221).

Both.

It's not done by ED, but it will be to "DCS standards" as determined by them I guess.



The Jedi Master

Mig-21Bis simulation detail level by Bezcl

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1649988&postcount=383

I've got a feeling this may well turn out to be the hardest DCS aircraft to learn to operate yet

Considering unlike the A-10C and Ka-50 it predates concepts like "ergonomics" and "reducing pilot workload" and "automation", I wouldn't be surprised at all.




The Jedi Master

Probably true. However, one also has to keep in mind the lower ambitions in what you're supposed achieve with the Mig-21. Basically, everybody is happy if you and your wingmen pop up from behind a mountain and swarm a two-flight of F-16s with Atolls (or whatever).

Well, to be fair, it has got a lot less electronic clutter like MFD's (which I will never fully understand because of all the terminology) and all that other gadgetry that the A-10 does. It's a relatively simple aircraft, just like the Soviets preferred them. Simple, robust and above all else, cheap! You watch Beczls start-up video, if that was the correct procedure then that will be much, much easier to get in to the air then the A-10 for example. Also the radar is very simple and logical to operate, I read the MiG-21 pilot manual and the separate document the Beczl released, no problemo I think. Radio navigation, simple. For me, it's perfect because it has switches! I love switches, switches with a fully understandable description instead of some technical abbreviations that I will NEVER find the interest to learn.

That's exactly what I mean. In 'modern' aircraft computers and electronic gadgetry do most of the tasks that would otherwise have to be done manually.

In this aircraft you have no such (or very little in comparison) assistance.

Trying to hit targets with MiG-21 sims in the past has been far from easy, so I guess with this one we'll see how accurate those sims were. That's just the pounding, too, never mind making sure the aircraft stays airborne and pointing in the right direction.

If the targeting is similar to the Su-25A, I won't have a problem - it's my fave ED aircraft - but from what I have read (and seen in documentaries) surviving in this aircraft was far from simple.

...and I fear avoiding incoming missiles is going to be a bit more difficult than your average.

Okay, power on your side, but am I going to end up feeling like a course hare at a dog track?

Two new Bezcl Mig-21Bis videos:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1659718&postcount=19



http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1659767&postcount=20

I have to say i'm looking forward to flying this jet. That's what a fast jet in DCS with an AFM should look and feel like, not the painful SFM of the Eagle and others.

So, does the real Mig-21 bounce up and down like it's on an elastic band? That didn't look right to me.

And, looks like missiles are useless lol as it only hit when he was in guns range

Looked way less elastic-y than F-15.

Holy Christ that sound is annoying.

Its like a spooky theremin cover of the AIM-9 Growl

I was just going to post that it sounded like a theremin!

I suspect an early mod will be replacing it with said winder growl.

Also, why did the reds paint their cockpits blue?

You C++ gurus seen this yet? Please apply at the earliest opportunity

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1660361#post1660361

Might explain why this project seems to have stalled a bit lately...