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#3681911 - 11/14/12 04:31 PM Re: Suggestions + Ideas { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: milang
dear hpasp... before publish new version on samsim... could u create one manual ashuluk site for sa-5 gammon?

all of systems in sam sim had a ideal position in ashuluk target but sa-5 has no enough space for fighting and all of ashuluk target launching from under 150KM frown but vega's kill zone is 200


Answered in the relevant topic...
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3681910/Re_S_200VE_Vega_E_SA_5B_Gammon.html#Post3681910


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#3690903 - 11/30/12 06:40 PM Re: Suggestions + Ideas { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: farokh]  
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dear hpasp hi

could u create one object for show missile Maneuver to samsim users

yep

#3706009 - 12/25/12 02:36 AM Easy Mode  
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Would be nice if there would be an easy Mode. So that People that cant read this Language know what Button or switch does do.
I mean an Translation from Russian or what ever it is in English.

So if i go with my Mouse over an Button or Switch or an other Text there, a little Text Box does Open where the English Translation of this Button or what ever is in.


Thanks for the Good Simulation :-)

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#3707095 - 12/27/12 12:28 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: Spock]  
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Originally Posted By: Spock
Would be nice if there would be an easy Mode. So that People that cant read this Language know what Button or switch does do.
I mean an Translation from Russian or what ever it is in English.

So if i go with my Mouse over an Button or Switch or an other Text there, a little Text Box does Open where the English Translation of this Button or what ever is in.


Thanks for the Good Simulation :-)

Regards
Spock


Hi,

Somewhere in the forum, there is a photo of a Volkhov panel with English labels (exported to the Arabic countries).
It would not be a big help, as you need to understand the complex systems behind the switches, to be able to operate those.
The manual is available in several languages, and lots of efforts went into writing and translating it, so use it (RTFM)...
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PS: Russian users, who naturally could read all the labels were unable to use the systems before reading the manual before...
... and in the beginning only English manuals were available, until Amidkor translated those into Russian.

Last edited by Hpasp; 12/27/12 12:33 PM.

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#3712313 - 01/05/13 03:33 AM Re: Easy Mode [Re: farokh]  
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The manual is worth reading for other reasons-it is one of the best Jane's-style technical expositions of the S-75 and S-125 systems in existence. Better than FAS, or even Air Power Australia. Great read.


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#3712366 - 01/05/13 06:20 AM Re: Easy Mode [Re: farokh]  
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Speaking of FAS, it states that the SA-5 is guided by command line-of-sight with terminal active radar homing. rolleyes

Air Power Australia is much better - about as good as publically available sources will ever get, and yes, none of them are as detailed operation-wise as the manual.

#3712383 - 01/05/13 07:40 AM Re: Easy Mode [Re: JWNoctis]  
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Originally Posted By: JWNoctis
Speaking of FAS, it states that the SA-5 is guided by command line-of-sight with terminal active radar homing. rolleyes


That was the initial idea... thumbsup

#3712415 - 01/05/13 10:40 AM Re: Easy Mode [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: JWNoctis
Speaking of FAS, it states that the SA-5 is guided by command line-of-sight with terminal active radar homing. rolleyes


That was the initial idea... thumbsup


Problem is, it's also explicitly stated that it's the S-200 series they're talking about.

And this has probably caused almost every warsim I know of, from Falcon 4.0 to Harpoon, to model the S-200 this way.

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#3717653 - 01/14/13 04:17 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: farokh]  
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I'm looking forward to the next release, and having the new ZSU-23-4 to play with.

But after that, do you have any plans?

More missions? Extra features for existing systems? Smarter enemies?

Is there any chance that the S-200 / SA-5 could receive more attention? It has a lot fewer missions than the other systems. And I think it has more missing features than most other systems.

Thank you for all your work!

#3721508 - 01/20/13 12:50 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: Mdore]  
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Originally Posted By: Mdore
I'm looking forward to the next release, and having the new ZSU-23-4 to play with.

But after that, do you have any plans?

More missions? Extra features for existing systems? Smarter enemies?

Is there any chance that the S-200 / SA-5 could receive more attention? It has a lot fewer missions than the other systems. And I think it has more missing features than most other systems.

Thank you for all your work!


There are several options to move forward...

1, New Historical Scenarios.
Vladivostok, Tallin (SA-2/3/5) against the Habu
Egypt (SA-2/3/Shilka) War of Attrition
Ashuluk - Strelba
Cuba (SA-2) Missile Crisis (U-2)
Syria (SA-2/3/5/Shilka) Operation Peace for Galilee (Weasels)

2, New "Realistic to the Switch" SAM systems

3, Scenario Editor

Last edited by Hpasp; 01/20/13 12:55 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3721817 - 01/20/13 11:17 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: farokh]  
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I have a question Hpasp.

Are you familiar with the DCS: World environment? And if yes, have you thought about porting a SAM system to it? Im sure a lot of people would be interested in that.

#3721831 - 01/20/13 11:42 PM Re: Suggestions + Ideas { SAM SIMULATOR } [Re: Hpasp]  
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It might be difficult to find detailed information on specific AA engagements, but the Angolan Civil War might be another option. Seems like cuban-operated Shilka and S125 saw some action there, e.g. from the S125 Wikipedia article:
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The FAPA-DAA acquired a significant number of SA-3s, and these were encountered during the first strike flown by SAAF Mirage F.1s against targets in Angola ever - in June 1980. While two aircraft were damaged by SAMs during this action, the Angolans claimed to have shot down four.[2]

On 7 June 1980, while attacking SWAPO's Tobias Haneko Training Camp during Operation Sceptic (Smokeshell), SAAF Major Frans Pretorius and Captain IC du Plessis, both flying Mirage F.1s, were hit by SA-3s. Pretorius's aircraft was hit in a fuel line and he had to perform a deadstick landing at AFB Ondangwa. DU Plessis's aircraft sustained heavier damage and had to divert to Ruacana forward airstrip, were he landed with only the main undercarriage extended. Both aircraft were repaired and returned to service.[3]


Quote:
Eventually Cuban troop strength in Angola increased to about 55,000, with 40,000 deployed in the south. Due to the international arms embargo since 1977, South Africas aging air force was outclassed by sophisticated Soviet-supplied air defence systems and air-strike capabilities fielded by the Cubans and Angolans and it was unable to uphold the air supremacy it had enjoyed for years; its loss in turn proved to be critical to the outcome of the battle on the ground.

from Battle of Cuito Cuanavale - the SA-2, SA-6 and SA-9 are listed there as well...

Even though I can't really speak or read spanish, here are some Mirages downed by 2x SA-3 (most likely the same as above) and 1x SA-9. Though the latter is credited to a Shilka in this german link, or a Shilka and/or Strela-3/SA-14 in this page that it references as source (spanish again; must be the cubans wink ).

#3722045 - 01/21/13 10:51 AM Re: Easy Mode [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

There are several options to move forward...

1, New Historical Scenarios.
Vladivostok, Tallin (SA-2/3/5) against the Habu
Egypt (SA-2/3/Shilka) War of Attrition
Ashuluk - Strelba
Cuba (SA-2) Missile Crisis (U-2)
Syria (SA-2/3/5/Shilka) Operation Peace for Galilee (Weasels)

2, New "Realistic to the Switch" SAM systems

3, Scenario Editor


Is this a pool? If so I am for new scenarios...Nothing compared to a historical scenario, played for a first time... (somethimes i feel like my heart will explode..). And I think that it is time for a new scenario, especially for SA-5... wink

#3722055 - 01/21/13 12:03 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: Vympel]  
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Originally Posted By: Vympel
I have a question Hpasp.

Are you familiar with the DCS: World environment? And if yes, have you thought about porting a SAM system to it? Im sure a lot of people would be interested in that.


at my eyes it was a great idea BUT ! its too expensive for a one free software dude!
for doing this job hpasp need a big cash + need few programmer + work with DCS team = ? its impossible

ps: samsim is really really realistic than DCS .... DCS is just a big game, not sim

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#3722101 - 01/21/13 02:32 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: farokh]  
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Originally Posted By: farokh
Originally Posted By: Vympel
I have a question Hpasp.

Are you familiar with the DCS: World environment? And if yes, have you thought about porting a SAM system to it? Im sure a lot of people would be interested in that.


at my eyes it was a great idea BUT ! its too expensive for a one free software dude!
for doing this job hpasp need a big cash + need few programmer + work with DCS team = ? its impossible

ps: samsim is really really realistic than DCS .... DCS is just a big game, not sim


Did Hpasp autorized you to be his representative??? I am sure he would anounce it officialy if so...

#3722132 - 01/21/13 03:32 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79

Did Hpasp autorized you to be his representative??? I am sure he would anounce it officialy if so...


i said at my eyes means (guess / opinion).... no one autorized me

#3722155 - 01/21/13 04:12 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: Vympel]  
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Originally Posted By: Vympel
I have a question Hpasp.

Are you familiar with the DCS: World environment? And if yes, have you thought about porting a SAM system to it? Im sure a lot of people would be interested in that.


Dear Vympel,

Yes I seen it earlier.
I also seen several interesting 3rd party product announcements, but so far I seen quite few (if any) 3rd party releases only.

Last edited by Hpasp; 01/21/13 04:13 PM.

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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3722156 - 01/21/13 04:14 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

There are several options to move forward...

1, New Historical Scenarios.
Vladivostok, Tallin (SA-2/3/5) against the Habu
Egypt (SA-2/3/Shilka) War of Attrition
Ashuluk - Strelba
Cuba (SA-2) Missile Crisis (U-2)
Syria (SA-2/3/5/Shilka) Operation Peace for Galilee (Weasels)

2, New "Realistic to the Switch" SAM systems

3, Scenario Editor


Is this a pool? If so I am for new scenarios...Nothing compared to a historical scenario, played for a first time... (somethimes i feel like my heart will explode..). And I think that it is time for a new scenario, especially for SA-5... wink


Hunting the Habu again over the Baltics?
biggrin

By using the Swedish ColdWar video, it will be easy to create a realistic situation.




You will have 6 Vega to choose from, against the Habu.



Last edited by Hpasp; 01/21/13 09:19 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3722233 - 01/21/13 06:26 PM Re: Easy Mode [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Hunting the Habu again?
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If anyone is interested... wink

#3722595 - 01/22/13 08:50 AM Re: Easy Mode [Re: farokh]  
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I am :-) The more S-200 scenarios, the better :-)

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