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#3718506 - 01/15/13 08:50 PM Trim Tabs don't for some aircraft in IL2 complete edition  
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Hello guys,

I recently purchased IL2 the complete edition and really enjoy messing with it. The only problem that I have found with it is the trim tab adjustments. The trim tabs work great for most of the allied aircraft in the sim but don't seem to work for some of the axis planes like the 109 or 190. Has anybody else run into this problem?

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#3718509 - 01/15/13 08:57 PM Re: Trim Tabs don't for some aircraft in IL2 complete edition [Re: stevek2]  
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Hello stevek2:

It might be better to post your query here:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/86/1/IL_2_FB_AEP_PF


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#3718518 - 01/15/13 09:02 PM Re: Trim Tabs don't for some aircraft in IL2 complete edition [Re: stevek2]  
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Some of the real German planes, the 109 being an example, didn't have inflight adjustable trim tabs and I don't think the 190 did either except maybe for the ailerons.
They were adjusted on the ground by the plane's crew chief or chief mechanic.

#3718549 - 01/15/13 09:57 PM Re: Trim Tabs don't for some aircraft in IL2 complete edition [Re: stevek2]  
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I belive those planes have a working Elevator trim, but that's it.

#3718602 - 01/15/13 11:18 PM Re: Trim Tabs don't for some aircraft in IL2 complete edition [Re: stevek2]  
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Welcome to SimHQ's Steve smile

Hope you got your question answered, probably not what you wanted to hear, but that's the hard facts of the game.
It's pretty realistic. And some things just cannot be changed. There are MODs though, you'll find more than you could ever use for this game. Some amazing stuff.

Any questions you have about that game will be 'best' answered here, if they don't know the answer here, it would be the first time I've seen it happen in over a decade.....so now, you're in the right place. biggrin



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#3719046 - 01/16/13 04:32 PM Re: Trim Tabs don't for some aircraft in IL2 complete edition [Re: stevek2]  
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Trim was put on the planes on a historic per-model basis.

109's have only rudder trim, and IIRC 190's (possibly not all).

example FW 190 G-3:
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/fw190/eb-104.html

(these quotes are 40's US pilot-speak and compare to what the ones testing the plane were used to, but none still means none.)
Quote:
The airplane has a steep climb and vision is good. Although no rudder trim is provided, the torque effect is negligible.

Quote:
Longitudinal trim of the airplane is accomplished by changing the incidence angle of the stabilizer rather than by trim tabs on the elevator. Ground adjustable tabs are only provided for rudder and aileron but are adequate since rudder and aileron trim changes for most flight conditions are very slight.

The elevator trim control is electrically operated and is controlled by a toggle switch. This control arrangement operates too slowly for maneuvers, requiring a rapid change in elevator trim.

Stability was satisfactory at this weight and C.G. location.


If you are experiencing roll and wonder why they didn't have aileron trim it's because you're supposed to correct that with rudder.
The cause is spiral propwash hitting the tail which changes with speed, engine and prop settings. It makes having rudder pedals a
definite plus in IL-2.

#3721071 - 01/19/13 06:36 PM Re: Trim Tabs don't for some aircraft in IL2 complete edition [Re: Neal]  
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Originally Posted By: Neal

109's have only rudder trim, and IIRC 190's (possibly not all).



Only elevator! Both planes.


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