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#3710866 - 01/03/13 12:56 AM What to upgrade  
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My current system:

CPU: I7-860
M/B: Gigabyte P55A-UD3
GPU: Saphhire HD 5770 Vapor-X 1GB
RAM: 2x2GB 1600MHz
O/S: Windows XP, Linux
Monitor: 1900x1200
HDDs only; no SSD

RoF is a slide-show with AA on, not much better with AA off, and takes forever to load. Any recommendations for ~$200 upgrade:

1. HD 7850 or 7870;
2. SSD; or
3. Windows 7 or 8 + more RAM?

Or is it not worth upgrading this CPU/mobo-combo?

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#3710880 - 01/03/13 01:26 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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I had that same processor, 2 upgrades ago, and it ran ROF very well. Im not familliar with that video card, so I couldnt tell you if its any good or not. I dont want to stear you wrong, so Ill let someone else chime in, but my guess would be to get a new video card. When I had the 860, I was using it with a single 460GTX and it ran ROF smooth with most settings high.

This was an older video I did with the 860 and a 460GTX.

Rob
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#3710884 - 01/03/13 01:32 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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I would hold off and build a new system when you can afford it with a 64 bit os.

My latest system is an i5 2500k
Asus P8Z68 deluxe
GTX 580
16GB RAM

Runs ROF maxxed out, including on the new channel map.

If a new system just isn't practical in the near future, try a new video card, although
I can't make an educated suggestion as to which one with that Mobo.

#3710885 - 01/03/13 01:35 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Gotta agree with Scoobe - video card. I'm running ROF with an HD 7870 and its smooth as silk with maxed graphics options.


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#3710894 - 01/03/13 01:49 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: Scoobe]  
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Originally Posted By: Scoobe
P.s. At the end, you can see my great piloting skills! exitstageleft



Nice touch with the pre-flight control surfaces check...but the ending was great. biggrin


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#3710921 - 01/03/13 03:07 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Thanks all, and nice video.

As long as we're sharing videos, here's one I did in Lock On FC2:


#3710959 - 01/03/13 04:40 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Video card could definitely be a good move if you are looking for a budget upgrade.

Is your CPU overclocked? You should be able to get that overclocked by about 1GHz, pushing 3.8 or so. You'd want to invest in an aftermarket cooling alternative. Stock is okay, but I'd check out aftermarket. I have an i7-870 (stock is 2.93) at 3.9GHz with HyperThreading disabled (researching HT in games has shown no benefits, and quite a few negavites) using the Noctua NH-D14 cooler. That heat sink quite pricey. There are cheaper after market CPU coolers that will still do just about as well.

More memory with XP will be a waste, you'd need a 64bit OS to use memory above the 3.5GB range. It won't help with performance either unless you are experiencing stutters due to drive access.

SSDs won't help with in-game performance, just a little with load times - but you'd be better off upgrading everything else (especially Windows to 64bit) before looking into SSDs.

#3710962 - 01/03/13 04:43 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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And before you go overclocking, if you haven't done it before, please research (google) it and/or ask here. The CPU can be burned out if too much voltage is applied.

#3710966 - 01/03/13 04:48 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Hyper 212 would be a decent aftermarket CPU cooling solution, and it is about $50 cheaper than the NH-D14.

#3711279 - 01/03/13 07:03 PM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Either one of the cards you mentioned are way up the list (performance wise) from your current GPU.

Look at this site: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

Your graphics card is definitely your biggest bottleneck at this time...

You can pick up a 7870 for between 240 and 260 bucks at Newegg all day long. It'll be a significant increase in framerates...


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#3711344 - 01/03/13 08:00 PM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Agreed on the GPU. That's where you are suffering.
Your CPU and RAM are fine
I'd also look at moving to Win 7.

#3711350 - 01/03/13 08:07 PM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Yeah, get a new video card before you upgrade anything else. Only if the new video card fails to improve as much as you'd like should you replace anything else.

Well, I would recommend going to Win7 anyway, as XP is at the end of its life, but that's not a hardware change.



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#3711390 - 01/03/13 08:59 PM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Everything is good inhere, except what people already wrote down your Vcard, that is a low performer.
Keep in your mind if going to another Vcard verify if your PSU can handle it and the Vram must be 1.5 Gb or more.

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#3711501 - 01/04/13 12:14 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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I should mention quiet and cool are important. Anyone know if Saphhire Dual-X 7870 will be noisier or hotter than Saphhire Vapor-X 5770? Vapor-X was a bit of a big deal 3 years ago. Most reviews seem to say most video cards are pretty quiet these days, but it's hard to judge what they're comparing to.

I'll also mention the PSU is Enermax Modu 82+ 525W. The computer is nicely quiet and doesn't heat up the room too much. CPU heat sink is the TRUE with a slow 120mm fan. It's great at stock frequency but I haven't tried overclock yet.

#3711518 - 01/04/13 12:39 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Found a review that says it runs cool and quiet and uses alot less power than a GTX 580.


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#3711588 - 01/04/13 02:35 AM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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Windows xp?

#3711845 - 01/04/13 02:47 PM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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525W is a bit low for modern video cards. Go to a site like Newegg and they'll have the recommended PSU rating listed with the card.




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#3711850 - 01/04/13 02:53 PM Re: What to upgrade [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
525W is a bit low for modern video cards. Go to a site like Newegg and they'll have the recommended PSU rating listed with the card.




The Jedi Master


Yes, a PSU that can handle the card load is vital. Don't go cheap on that item.


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#3711855 - 01/04/13 02:59 PM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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It's a fact that the PSU is probably the most neglected hardware component in most user's PCs...yet it is vital for proper operation!
Sort of like buying a sports car and then wondering why it doesn't run well with the Hess 87 octane gas and the cheapest tires you can buy at Sears.

Don't waste money and power by getting a 1000w PSU for a system that won't top 600w in usage, but you do want a comfortable margin of maybe 100w.



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#3712092 - 01/04/13 08:36 PM Re: What to upgrade [Re: ReallyBadPilot]  
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PSU is ok it can handle the 7870, but you can do your calculations on http://www.enermax.outervision.com/PSUEngine
About the sound just type in Google, there must be a site, that did the sound measurements.


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