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#3709919 - 01/01/13 11:33 AM BoS what we know so far  
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People and Team

Jason Williams is the head, Albert Zhiltsov (LOFT) is the producer.
Developed by the new "1C Game Studios".
1C Game Studios is made of 777 team combined with some of the old 1C Maddox team. (Jason)
777 as a brand and entity is not disbanded and will continue to be used (for RoF). (Jason)
Current team is a few dozen people give or take contractors. (Jason)
Luthier (Ilya Shevchenko) is not part of the project. (Luthier)
BlackSix is part of the new team. (BlackSix)
1C is a "partner" (publisher?). (Jason)
Ubisoft is not involved. (Jason)



Business and Plan

Initial client release is slated for early 2014. (Press Release)
Business model will have some similar aspects with RoF, but it will not be identical. (Jason)
Business model will be a hybrid between RoF and the old IL-2 [1946]. (LOFT)
Free-to-play client (as with RoF) will not be available. (Jason)
Some sort of free demo is planned. (Jason)
New content added over time after initial launch (paid). (Jason)
New theaters and planes are planned for the future if everything goes to plan. (Jason, LOFT)
Closed Beta planned. (Jason)
Pre-orders will open in 2013. (LOFT)
Private project, no government/state is involved with financing. (LOFT)



Technical

Will use Digital Nature (Rise of Flight) engine. (Jason)
Engine will be DirectX 9 based on launch. (Jason, LOFT)
If this product is a success - DirectX 11 support will be considered for the future. (Jason)
Native 64-bit support is still considered. (LOFT)
Windows 8 will be supported. (LOFT)
Work will be done to make the engine ready for WWII aircraft. (Jason)
Engine can support different types of player vehicles from main battle tanks to giant robots. (Jason, LOFT, also see tank video)
TrackIR will be supported.
Oculus Rift support is a possibility. (Jason)
Steam support is unlikely. (LOFT, Jason)
System requirements not known yet. (Jason)
Multi-threading and multiple cores will be utilized. (Jason)
Multi-core support will be the same as in RoF (best with 4-core CPU). (LOFT)
External physical instrument support (as IL-2 DeviceLink) will not be available at launch. (Jason)



Mods, Skins and Editor

Mission Editor will be similar to RoF. (Jason, LOFT)
No third-party planes or API planned. (Jason)
Other types of mods will be supported (as with "mods on" in RoF). (Jason)
Official Skin Packs will be used (as in RoF). (Jason, LOFT)
User skinning will be supported with provided templates. (Jason)
Map Editor as a tool will not be available (however theoretically it will be possible to create new maps without an editor). (LOFT)



General

Not a CloD clone sequel, a brand new game. (Jason)
Not an arcade game, a simulator. (Jason)
Not a MMO. (Jason)
Only the critical systems will be modeled: propeller pitch, boost, altitude control, different mechanization, weapons etc. (LOFT)
Not a study/training sim (think FSX, DCS), but a combat simulator. (LOFT)
Would like to return to the original IL-2 [1946] idea. (LOFT)
Will include both multi-player and single-player gameplay options. (Jason)
For SP: QMB, Single Missions and a Career/Campaign system. (Jason)
No clickable cockpits planned. (Jason, LOFT)
Cockpit switches and toggles will be animated (to what extent unknown yet). (LOFT)
Cockpit details will not be modeled to CloD level. (LOFT)
Engines will operate in a realistic manner as they do in RoF. (Jason)
AI will be updated for the WW2 combat. (Jason)
Infantry (on the ground) will not be modeled. (LOFT)
Will not be able to leave the plane and control the pilot. (LOFT)
Parachute jump and bail out will be implemented (how detailed unknown yet). (LOFT)
No pilot body in cockpit view. (LOFT)
Will have an achievement/award system. (LOFT)
Track recording will be available (as in RoF). (Jason)



Planes

Plane list not yet decided. (Jason)
Plane list will be announced in February 2013. (LOFT)
At least ten aircraft planned for launch (fighters, attack planes and bombers). (LOFT)
LaGG-3 is kind of unofficially confirmed with cockpit image (3DsMax render) and imported CloD model. (LOFT)



Map and Campaign

Covering the time period of the Battle of Stalingrad. (Jason)
The map will be geographically accurate. (Jason)
The snowy battlefield around Stalingrad will be believable. (Jason)
Will start with "Operation Uranus" (Soviet counterattack) and will finish with liberation of Stalingrad. (LOFT)
Some terrain detail/visual improvements planned (from RoF point of view). (LOFT)
Map length from west to east is 360 km (Tatsinskaya - Stupino / Kapustin Yar). (LOFT)
Map height from north to south is 230 km (Kletskaya - Kotelnikovo). (LOFT)
Projected map area. (by Rodolphe)



Multiplayer

Will have dedicated server support. (Jason, LOFT)
No official servers (only player/third-party hosted). (LOFT)
Not a MMO, don't expect hundreds of players per server. (Jason)
Multi-crew aircraft with full multiplayer support. (LOFT)



Other

There will be developer diaries on Fridays (not every Friday). (Jason)
BoS content will not merge with (or install over) Cliffs of Dover as stated before by former Maddox team. (Jason)
Some of the models and textures might be re-used from CloD. (LOFT)
RoF development will continue. All promised content is on track, 2013 roadmap is still unknown (Jason).
RoF (engine) might benefit from the work done on Battle of Stalingrad. (Jason)
The new Channel Map for RoF will not be available in BoS. (Jason)
The team inherited from 1C all materials, documents and studies for the Battle of Stalingrad and the Eastern Front. (BlackSix)

#3709965 - 01/01/13 02:15 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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Great summary JimBobb, thanks!

MAC

#3710020 - 01/01/13 04:11 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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'tis pretty good info there

Now. Where's the salt?

#3710068 - 01/01/13 05:47 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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You can follow the updates to a similar thread by Sim at the new IL-2 Sturmovik forum.
What we know so far: Battle of Stalingrad: http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/topic/146-what-we-know-so-far-battle-of-stalingrad/


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Originally Posted By: JimBobb
People and Team

Jason Williams is the head, Albert Zhiltsov (LOFT) is the producer.
Developed by the new "1C Game Studios".
1C Game Studios is made of 777 team combined with some of the old 1C Maddox team. (Jason)
777 as a brand and entity is not disbanded and will continue to be used (for RoF). (Jason)
Current team is a few dozen people give or take contractors. (Jason)
Luthier (Ilya Shevchenko) is not part of the project. (Luthier)
BlackSix is part of the new team. (BlackSix)
1C is a "partner" (publisher?). (Jason)
Ubisoft is not involved. (Jason)



Business and Plan

Initial client release is slated for early 2014. (Press Release)
Business model will have some similar aspects with RoF, but it will not be identical. (Jason)
Business model will be a hybrid between RoF and the old IL-2 [1946]. (LOFT)
Free-to-play client (as with RoF) will not be available. (Jason)
Some sort of free demo is planned. (Jason)
New content added over time after initial launch (paid). (Jason)
New theaters and planes are planned for the future if everything goes to plan. (Jason, LOFT)
Closed Beta planned. (Jason)
Pre-orders will open in 2013. (LOFT)
Private project, no government/state is involved with financing. (LOFT)



Technical

Will use Digital Nature (Rise of Flight) engine. (Jason)
Engine will be DirectX 9 based on launch. (Jason, LOFT)
If this product is a success - DirectX 11 support will be considered for the future. (Jason)
Native 64-bit support is still considered. (LOFT)
Windows 8 will be supported. (LOFT)
Work will be done to make the engine ready for WWII aircraft. (Jason)
Engine can support different types of player vehicles from main battle tanks to giant robots. (Jason, LOFT, also see tank video)
TrackIR will be supported.
Oculus Rift support is a possibility. (Jason)
Steam support is unlikely. (LOFT, Jason)
System requirements not known yet. (Jason)
Multi-threading and multiple cores will be utilized. (Jason)
Multi-core support will be the same as in RoF (best with 4-core CPU). (LOFT)
External physical instrument support (as IL-2 DeviceLink) will not be available at launch. (Jason)



Mods, Skins and Editor

Mission Editor will be similar to RoF. (Jason, LOFT)
No third-party planes or API planned. (Jason)
Other types of mods will be supported (as with "mods on" in RoF). (Jason)
Official Skin Packs will be used (as in RoF). (Jason, LOFT)
User skinning will be supported with provided templates. (Jason)
Map Editor as a tool will not be available (however theoretically it will be possible to create new maps without an editor). (LOFT)



General

Not a CloD clone sequel, a brand new game. (Jason)
Not an arcade game, a simulator. (Jason)
Not a MMO. (Jason)
Only the critical systems will be modeled: propeller pitch, boost, altitude control, different mechanization, weapons etc. (LOFT)
Not a study/training sim (think FSX, DCS), but a combat simulator. (LOFT)
Would like to return to the original IL-2 [1946] idea. (LOFT)
Will include both multi-player and single-player gameplay options. (Jason)
For SP: QMB, Single Missions and a Career/Campaign system. (Jason)
No clickable cockpits planned. (Jason, LOFT)
Cockpit switches and toggles will be animated (to what extent unknown yet). (LOFT)
Cockpit details will not be modeled to CloD level. (LOFT)
Engines will operate in a realistic manner as they do in RoF. (Jason)
AI will be updated for the WW2 combat. (Jason)
Infantry (on the ground) will not be modeled. (LOFT)
Will not be able to leave the plane and control the pilot. (LOFT)
Parachute jump and bail out will be implemented (how detailed unknown yet). (LOFT)
No pilot body in cockpit view. (LOFT)
Will have an achievement/award system. (LOFT)
Track recording will be available (as in RoF). (Jason)



Planes

Plane list not yet decided. (Jason)
Plane list will be announced in February 2013. (LOFT)
At least ten aircraft planned for launch (fighters, attack planes and bombers). (LOFT)
LaGG-3 is kind of unofficially confirmed with cockpit image (3DsMax render) and imported CloD model. (LOFT)



Map and Campaign

Covering the time period of the Battle of Stalingrad. (Jason)
The map will be geographically accurate. (Jason)
The snowy battlefield around Stalingrad will be believable. (Jason)
Will start with "Operation Uranus" (Soviet counterattack) and will finish with liberation of Stalingrad. (LOFT)
Some terrain detail/visual improvements planned (from RoF point of view). (LOFT)
Map length from west to east is 360 km (Tatsinskaya - Stupino / Kapustin Yar). (LOFT)
Map height from north to south is 230 km (Kletskaya - Kotelnikovo). (LOFT)
Projected map area. (by Rodolphe)



Multiplayer

Will have dedicated server support. (Jason, LOFT)
No official servers (only player/third-party hosted). (LOFT)
Not a MMO, don't expect hundreds of players per server. (Jason)
Multi-crew aircraft with full multiplayer support. (LOFT)



Other

There will be developer diaries on Fridays (not every Friday). (Jason)
BoS content will not merge with (or install over) Cliffs of Dover as stated before by former Maddox team. (Jason)
Some of the models and textures might be re-used from CloD. (LOFT)
RoF development will continue. All promised content is on track, 2013 roadmap is still unknown (Jason).
RoF (engine) might benefit from the work done on Battle of Stalingrad. (Jason)
The new Channel Map for RoF will not be available in BoS. (Jason)
The team inherited from 1C all materials, documents and studies for the Battle of Stalingrad and the Eastern Front. (BlackSix)



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#3710124 - 01/01/13 07:18 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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I'm not going to follow another long sim development effort...either wake me or bury me when its finally done old_simmer


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#3710195 - 01/01/13 09:51 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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I don't think slip plays rise of flight.

#3710207 - 01/01/13 10:11 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: LukeFF]  
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Originally Posted By: LukeFF
Originally Posted By: SlipBall
I'm not going to follow another long sim development effort...either wake me or bury me when its finally done old_simmer


Good, now go and enjoy your half-baked flight sim.



You seem to have a need to reach out to people within the safe distance of the internet...run upstairs, and see if Mom thinks thats a good idea


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Clod
OEM screenshots & videos of Eu release..So I fly the original game because I am a off-liner and the game's AI was broken after the last good patch, game version 1.0.13954
GigaByteBoard...64bit...FX 4300 3.8, G. Skill sniper 1866 32GB, EVGA GTX 660 ti 3gb, Raptor 64mb cache, Planar 120Hz 2ms, CH controls, Tir5
#3710209 - 01/01/13 10:13 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: ATAG_Bliss]  
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Originally Posted By: ATAG_Bliss
I don't think slip plays rise of flight.


and never will Bliss


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Clod
OEM screenshots & videos of Eu release..So I fly the original game because I am a off-liner and the game's AI was broken after the last good patch, game version 1.0.13954
GigaByteBoard...64bit...FX 4300 3.8, G. Skill sniper 1866 32GB, EVGA GTX 660 ti 3gb, Raptor 64mb cache, Planar 120Hz 2ms, CH controls, Tir5
#3710233 - 01/01/13 11:10 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: LukeFF]  
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Originally Posted By: LukeFF
Originally Posted By: SlipBall
I'm not going to follow another long sim development effort...either wake me or bury me when its finally done old_simmer


Good, now go and enjoy your half-baked flight sim.


Oh what cleverness this is; is Slip silly enough to enjoy a half baked sim. It's preposterous if it's true.

#3710284 - 01/02/13 12:50 AM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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Thanks JimBobb.

I'm looking forward to this sim even more after reading the list of items.

#3710287 - 01/02/13 12:53 AM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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I'm glad they are trying. The fact that they are trying despite the disaster that was CLoD and despite the dilution of the market with War Thunder and aging market, they are willing to commit while facing real risk of financial loss is commendable as hell. If Jason and his team were wealthy enthusiasts then I wouldn't be so impressed. But they are not. Their livelihoods are at stake. They would simply cut their losses if they weren't somewhat certain that this will work.

Oh, and thanks JimBobb!

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#3710320 - 01/02/13 01:55 AM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted By: bisher
Originally Posted By: LukeFF
Originally Posted By: SlipBall
I'm not going to follow another long sim development effort...either wake me or bury me when its finally done old_simmer


Good, now go and enjoy your half-baked flight sim.


Oh what cleverness this is; is Slip silly enough to enjoy a half baked sim. It's preposterous if it's true.


What? Something on the internet that is preposterous? That cannot be!




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#3710354 - 01/02/13 03:11 AM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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I know the battle for Stalingrad was one of the most awful, land, hard-grind battles of WWII............ but the air battle above? Does that merit a famous 'air battle'?

#3710426 - 01/02/13 06:50 AM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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Enjoy? enjoy?! how very dare you say such a thing, Sims are not meant to be enjoyed, everyone knows this! if i catch Slip or anyone else crazy enough "enjoying" any sim i will be most unimpressed.

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#3710427 - 01/02/13 06:53 AM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: Hinchinbrooke]  
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Originally Posted By: Hinchinbrooke
I know the battle for Stalingrad was one of the most awful, land, hard-grind battles of WWII............ but the air battle above? Does that merit a famous 'air battle'?


If you are Russian, sure. Got to remember who is paying the bills for this.


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#3710473 - 01/02/13 10:48 AM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: LukeFF]  
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Originally Posted By: LukeFF
Originally Posted By: SlipBall
I'm not going to follow another long sim development effort...either wake me or bury me when its finally done old_simmer


Good, now go and enjoy your half-baked flight sim.



get back in the well



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OEM screenshots & videos of Eu release..So I fly the original game because I am a off-liner and the game's AI was broken after the last good patch, game version 1.0.13954
GigaByteBoard...64bit...FX 4300 3.8, G. Skill sniper 1866 32GB, EVGA GTX 660 ti 3gb, Raptor 64mb cache, Planar 120Hz 2ms, CH controls, Tir5
#3711129 - 01/03/13 03:30 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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Good god. Actually, Good Richard Dawkins! This kind of stuff is why we moderate the BoS forums so strictly. Achieves nothing other than to antagonize fellow simmers and poison the sim genre for potential players and even developers.
BTW, this is me posting in my personal capacity as I am in no way a mod here at SimHQ.

#3711141 - 01/03/13 03:43 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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Ya and the little bugger scurried away after dropping his gift wrapped insult smile

He must be STONED! cue monty python vid, except I've already done that one.

#3711327 - 01/03/13 07:43 PM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!

Carry on...




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#3711497 - 01/04/13 12:05 AM Re: BoS what we know so far [Re: JimBobb]  
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