#3697496 - 12/12/12 12:49 PM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
[Re: Force10]
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Aces High 2
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LOL mate, I've seen that sign before I'll look forward to the source code being released then Cheers Aces
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#3697918 - 12/13/12 12:17 AM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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I presume the hackers will descend on CloD now with a righteous vengeance, and try to pull from its entrails the sim they have been demanding.
I wish them all possible luck.
Personally I would not like to be classed as a "hacker", a "modder", yes, a "hacker" certainly not :D, it's always helpful, and I think healthy when devs release an SDK but I never seriously thought that 1C would do so, they have never done so before and their record of working with and encouraging a modding community is non-existent. Regards Aces "Hacker" is an occupation with a fine and noble tradition, for those old enough to remember before the word was degraded, mostly by the media (as usual). Anyway, in this context, a hacker is someone who manages to mod with absolutely no support from the devs, and has to penetrate undocumented regions.
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#3697972 - 12/13/12 02:36 AM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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I think that they should release the source code. It would be a good way to thank the community. LOL, thank them for what? Anyways, it's a moot point. The code is not going to get released.
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#3698209 - 12/13/12 03:13 PM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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I presume the hackers will descend on CloD now with a righteous vengeance, and try to pull from its entrails the sim they have been demanding.
I wish them all possible luck.
Personally I would not like to be classed as a "hacker", a "modder", yes, a "hacker" certainly not :D, it's always helpful, and I think healthy when devs release an SDK but I never seriously thought that 1C would do so, they have never done so before and their record of working with and encouraging a modding community is non-existent. Regards Aces "Hacker" is an occupation with a fine and noble tradition, for those old enough to remember before the word was degraded, mostly by the media (as usual). Anyway, in this context, a hacker is someone who manages to mod with absolutely no support from the devs, and has to penetrate undocumented regions. +1 Spot on. What PV1 doesn't want to be associated with is a 'cracker' or 'black hat', unfortunately the media/Hollywood has abused the term 'hacker' for so long that you have to explain it every time
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#3698215 - 12/13/12 03:21 PM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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I presume the hackers will descend on CloD now with a righteous vengeance, and try to pull from its entrails the sim they have been demanding.
+1, Amen.
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#3698358 - 12/13/12 06:53 PM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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Let's not forget the F4 source code leak was illegal, but due to the breakup of MPS/Hasbroprose they apparently were unable to figure out who did it. "Atari" now has the rights, but after LP seemed to dissolve like Alka-Seltzer in water they have shown no interest in doing anything with them including going after modders.
F4 was a case of someone risking big time legal action for unknown reasons (it could've been for spite, not some lofty "let it live!!" nobility) combined with an apathetic rights holder. Unlike "Atari", Ubi is far more aggressive. Also, many (we don't know how many) of the CloD people are still working with 1C and 777 now on BoS. It would be the height of stupidity to leak the code and jeopardize their job. Some parts of the code may be reused as well.
There will be no source code release, and a leak is highly unlikely.
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#3698438 - 12/13/12 08:57 PM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
[Re: Force10]
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They won't release source code, they can't. Cliffs of Dover uses at least one middleware - Speed Tree. It's proprietary code licensed per title, and they don't own that code, they licensed it to one use. Before they could release source code of the game to the community (like Razorworks did with EECH), they would have to remove all licensed middlewares, and all references to that code. It's a lot of work nobody would pay for, and we don't know how deep the integration lies. 'Accidential leak' would cost them too much. I can't imagine now strict the NDA with middleware developers is. tl;dr: Forget about source code, move on.
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#3701145 - 12/18/12 01:10 AM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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#3701293 - 12/18/12 07:39 AM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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Yep, same here Bliss...your smile looks very confident and reassuring
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#3704413 - 12/22/12 10:45 AM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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Any news from operations center?
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#3705402 - 12/24/12 04:29 AM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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Sweet, I've got an unopened $50 coaster!
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#3706933 - 12/27/12 12:09 AM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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commorange
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The team has not finished SDK. The project was canceled before we were able to find the time for this work. Now it is no longer possible. One last poke in the eye from 1C. It's a shame because the modders could have made this abandonware into something. Why would you want it?? It would be like getting a free mattress that somebodys kids peed on.
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#3706935 - 12/27/12 12:13 AM
Re: BlackSix from 1C says SDK won't happen
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commorange
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Good grief. This thread is full of cogent arguments against the release of the source code, which started before the one poster made the suggestion, and continue on for two more days, with no counter-arguments from anyone. I rather think that point has long been made.
However, one doesn't need source code to back-engineer software, if one has talent and a perverse degree of determination. I can already feel the virtual screwdrivers and crowbars gathering round. Let's wait and see what develops...
We dont want any counter arguments!!! We are all here to urinate on the grave of CLoD. I have been drinking coffee and pop for hours and have a full bladder. I intend to get my turn .. sploosh sploosh Niagara Falls. RIP CLoD.
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CD WOFF
by Britisheh. 03/28/24 08:05 PM
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