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#3674869 - 11/04/12 01:30 AM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: Silver_Dragon]  
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Originally Posted By: Silver_Dragon
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1593751&postcount=1875
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I guess you wrote wrongly.
Inversely: heating up - firstly redish, then yellowish.
What you wrote is the cooling down process/effect/colour, but i think you will never see the yellow. Means: too high temperature ---> cause thermal deformation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ELhy4_0hM Red barrels 1:02

ANYWAY: Nice Job Laci





....except, the red glowing on the minigun in that video is illumination from the helicopter's external lights, not barrel heating.

But barrels do heat up and glow, i've seen it plenty of times myself on MAG58s.


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#3674933 - 11/04/12 06:04 AM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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The barrels heat up like that, I've seen them do it in GAU-8 test fires, for longer bursts...


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#3675175 - 11/04/12 05:53 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
The barrels heat up like that, I've seen them do it in GAU-8 test fires, for longer bursts...


They certainly do, but in that particular video it's the external lights, hence the pulsating.

Here's what it looks like when a minigun's barrels start glowing due to heat. As long as the burst is continuous, there's no pulsating.


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#3675342 - 11/04/12 10:45 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Combat flight sims have come a long way when people are arguing about the effect of heat on the color of gun barrels smile
I don't believe anyone playing Jane's Fighters Anthology or even Falcon 4.0 ever worried about such details.
I can see a day when rivet counting will be critical to correctly modeling the structural integrity of aircraft.
Overstressing the airframe will literally pop rivets and having the wrong count will affect the effective strength of the aircraft.


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#3675361 - 11/04/12 11:14 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: streakeagle]  
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Originally Posted By: streakeagle
Combat flight sims have come a long way when people are arguing about the effect of heat on the color of gun barrels smile
I don't believe anyone playing Jane's Fighters Anthology or even Falcon 4.0 ever worried about such details.
I can see a day when rivet counting will be critical to correctly modeling the structural integrity of aircraft.
Overstressing the airframe will literally pop rivets and having the wrong count will affect the effective strength of the aircraft.



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#3675932 - 11/05/12 09:56 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: WynnTTr]  
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I guess now we find out if opening DCS to third parties was worth it. I have doubts that the quality will be the same.

I think the plan is that 3rd party developers can make other aircraft but they'd be of various quality.. most probably LockOn fidelity. However some very special aircraft will get the official DCS tag and those ones will be up to DCS standards e.g. the 21 and now IRIS F-15E.

It's all good not matter how you look at it. More aircraft flying in DCS world is better than just playing with one.


Wish they'd give the F-15C the full treatment too. I'm sure it's doable.


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#3675969 - 11/05/12 10:45 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Since it's part of FC3, I'm guessing it's seen as a low priority.



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#3676033 - 11/06/12 12:00 AM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Hi Laci,

I think it was already mentioned some hundred posts before, but I would ask again. Are the instruments in the cockpit (altitude meter, ai horizont, vario, etc.) work in progress and subject to change, or they are already finalized. I ask this, because the cockpit itself is a fantastic work, every switch/hat/knob everything looks perfect. But the instruments have no depth. I mean I am really got used to Ricardo's instruments, they look fantastic. I know, it's my bad I am also aware, that those instruments cannot be reused, as the 21 has different gauges. It can be only my perversion, but I feel, that the cockpit is an excellent peace of work, while the gauges are "just good ones".

Edit: After posting, I found, that of course you can do such nice instruments If I look at the oxigen meter right next to the throttle, that's what I'm talking about.

I know my instruments need some additional enhance. Unfortunately both of my contact who promise me to help upgrade my gauges is lost in space so I have to do that without any help. As you know it's a bit time consuming and during test I use a last stable version that's the reason why you can't see the updated instruments in the videos or screenshots yet. If you take a look the attached pics you can clearly see which instruments are the older ones. :-)





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#3676035 - 11/06/12 12:02 AM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Very cool.

Here's a question - does anyone have any references one could use to read up on the function and operation of the Mig-21BIS's radar?


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#3676177 - 11/06/12 04:39 AM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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There's a link to a pdf on the DCS MiG 21 site although it's running very slow for me at the moment.

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#3676276 - 11/06/12 11:16 AM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Originally Posted By: EinsteinEP
There's a link to a pdf on the DCS MiG 21 site although it's running very slow for me at the moment.


Lol, you know that posting that here will send 100 people over the the site and make it run even slower. I'm trying to download it now and getting nowhere

#3676336 - 11/06/12 01:12 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Yup. It sent me there :-)


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#3676384 - 11/06/12 02:08 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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#3677863 - 11/08/12 01:01 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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#3691407 - 12/01/12 09:36 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Bezcl news:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1619531&postcount=13
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As I recognised need some clarification and info about the MiG-21 release so far.

So the SITREP is the following:

- Planned release date 2013 Q1. That caused by several thing especially we need to a find a new C++ coder.
- Need to be recreate the cockpit textures. The good news is to a very good texture artist help us and working on both the cockpit and exterior model texture enhancement.
- A few general aircraft system doesn't aligned to the MiG-21 requirements and capabilities. Also we need to recreate some AC system from scratch to align them the new standards as well.
- Some feature that required for MiG-21 still WIP in DCS:World side. Also we need a stable workaround (bug free) environment for testing and features implementation.
- As mentioned before I don't want to release a beta DCS:MiG-21 module that has any significant bug. I plan to release a working, bug-free, fully playable module.
- It's named DCS:MiG-21Bis as stated many times. I think the DCS tag will answer your questions about the mod complexity.


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#3703392 - 12/20/12 11:46 PM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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The manual is really good. Its interesting that there's no table of contents

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Cool

so next year we will have this and the release of FC3?


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#3709767 - 01/01/13 03:38 AM Re: DCS: MiG-21Bis Fishbed [Re: GrayGhost]  
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I will be very upset if MiG-21 comes out in 2014!

FC3 is of course already a playable beta, so it and CA should definitely be final in 2013.




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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
FC3 is of course already a playable beta, so it and CA should definitely be final in 2013.

Somebody carve that in stone! I wanna read it in 2014! wink


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