#3694559 - 12/07/12 01:16 PM
No F-35s for Canada
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Canada hits the eject button on F-35 Someone please explain to me how the hell 65 fighters can cost $30 BILLION dollars? That's real dollars, not those crappy US greenbacks. We could've bought a couple Nimitz carriers for that, with air wings! Well, back to the drawing board, I guess. Maybe we'll look at Typhoons or Superbugs.
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#3694565 - 12/07/12 01:22 PM
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There's an hilarious mistake in the diagram with all the fighters drawn face to face. Here : http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/na1201_fighterjets1500.jpgApparently the T-50 has a ceiling of 20,000 Kilometers. That's going to kick some asses... Alien ones, that is. Scratch alien invasion from the list of reason humans are going to go extinct, boys and girls.
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#3694568 - 12/07/12 01:25 PM
Re: No F-35s for Canada
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And the chinese J-20 barely manages 2000 meters. Awww, how cute...
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#3694569 - 12/07/12 01:25 PM
Re: No F-35s for Canada
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Aaaand the super hornet is NOT a super hornet in the drawing, but that's trivial...
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#3694598 - 12/07/12 02:04 PM
Re: No F-35s for Canada
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Yeah, the frontal view of the F-18 was the 1st thing I noticed.
Also, I'm not suggesting for a moment that playing in the big leagues isn't expensive, or that 30 year operating costs aren't costly. But $30 billion dollars! I bet 60+ Super Hornets would be half the price. Canada does NOT require F-35s in my opinion. If anything, F-22s would have been a better choice if the US would let us buy them.
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#3694610 - 12/07/12 02:25 PM
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Canada hits the eject button on F-35 Someone please explain to me how the hell 65 fighters can cost $30 BILLION dollars? That's real dollars, not those crappy US greenbacks. We could've bought a couple Nimitz carriers for that, with air wings! Well, back to the drawing board, I guess. Maybe we'll look at Typhoons or Superbugs. That is Lifecycle cost... Over 36 years. That is cheap for what you will be getting. The F-35 is a revolutionary aircraft, and will change what we know about Tac Air for future generations. -Skater
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#3694613 - 12/07/12 02:28 PM
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Canada does NOT require F-35s in my opinion. If anything, F-22s would have been a better choice if the US would let us buy them.
No, they'll only sell F-22s to their friends.
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#3694619 - 12/07/12 02:38 PM
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Hmm... For a long time I thought that the anti-F-35-lobby would slowly fade away after the introduction of the airplane. Remember the extremly expensive F-14, costing a wooping 38 million USD (1998) ! After a few years in service the crtitic had more or less disappeared, and instead it was noted what a huge leap it was in capability compared to the F-4. However, I'm slowly starting to think that maybe the F-35 wont go the same way. But otoh, what else is there to be offered? The Eurocanards? The PAK-FA? J-20?
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#3694636 - 12/07/12 03:00 PM
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Australia and Japan are still buying a mess of them.
Australia also has SuperBugs already, and Canada was about to get them I thought? (to replace aging Legacy hornets)
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#3694720 - 12/07/12 04:57 PM
Re: No F-35s for Canada
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with the maple leafs record the last 10 years, they bomb every year already, no need for nukes.
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#3694753 - 12/07/12 05:54 PM
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They didn't hit the eject button, and I doubt they'll actually change the jet. This is a waste of money; there is no competition for the F-35. The Typhoon is about as expensive and less stealthy. The Superbug is a generation or at least half a generation behind the F-35. It will be out-dated well before the F-35. What's the point? Canada hits the eject button on F-35 Someone please explain to me how the hell 65 fighters can cost $30 BILLION dollars? That's real dollars, not those crappy US greenbacks. We could've bought a couple Nimitz carriers for that, with air wings! Well, back to the drawing board, I guess. Maybe we'll look at Typhoons or Superbugs.
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#3694755 - 12/07/12 05:55 PM
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No, it isn't stupid. That single engine is more reliable than two CF-18 engines. It is also more powerful. Single engine plane for Canada is purely stupid. Distance between airport/landing strips are HUGE. you can't glide 300nm is something goes wrong ...
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