Here, it is on the next page

It's problem for me, because I'm learning English but I didn't finish this process at present.
Central ideas from this articles:
1) we are developing MMO game based on CloD engine
2) announcement will be soon, June 2012 is deadline
3) it will be hardcore game (as old Il-2 and CloD) for the true simmers
4) alpha version will be ready in 2013

And where did i BS? so nicely put as always Krupi.

Winning streaks usually aren't followed by the producers pulling funding for continuation of the project, especially when it's still in an unfinished state. Winning streaks aren't usually accompanied by releasing a product that doesn't even do what the developers stated, and continue to state, that it would do on their own product website. Winning streaks aren't usually recognized as going hand-in-hand with the turning down of developer-stated features within the product because they A) Don't work right or B) Cause too many FPS problems or C) Cause the product to crash to desktop.

I think "winning streak" is a bit much of a term to be used when referring to CLoD.

Your betting on the wrong horse. As long as you continue your negative diatribe your losing streak will continue. Even if the development gets shut down the community will take over. The new game engine is far from dead, and has far too much potential to die. Just flying Heinkill and companies latest offline campaign proves that in spades. I've been beta testing another recent WW2 combat flight sim offline that left me cold, while the COD REDUX RAF campaign left we wanting to fly more missions. There is no doubt the sim needs a highly optimized system, and the AI needs work, but that's nothing the community can't handle.

Gotta love all this speculation!

Chivas, serious question...what makes you think we are going to get such improvements in the AI? they had years and years to improve over IL2 and made zero progress, in fact some would say they have gone backwards.
You think all of a sudden they have worked it out for the sequel?

No, I'm not losing anything nor am I betting on any horse...even one that's reputation has it in the glue factory currently. I've got other things I can do sim-related that are as enjoyable as a fully functional flight sim (which CLoD certainly isn't), without the headaches associated with CLoD. The only thing I've lost is the purchase price I paid for CLoD and I've spent more than that in a bar on many a single night so it's no major loss. You can speculate all you want on what BOM/the follow-up is going to be like and how well it's going to perform but it's just that...pure speculation.

While I have to tip my hat to your continued optimism, I have to shake my head at your criticism of people that don't see this incomplete title...and that's exactly what it is right now, an incomplete title...in the same light as you do through your rose colored flight goggles. I'm glad that you are enjoying your time with it, Chivas...more power to you. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. Those of us that have criticsms concerning CLoD are used to getting what is advertised when we buy something I guess. It's evident that some people are happy with an unfinished product and that's fine for them...it's not for me and others, though.

As for any future products, I can't be overjoyed with promises of a better title down the road from a developer who's track record isn't anywhere near a "winner" currently, given their past result....a flawed title that they advertised to be more.

Well, that is good "news"!

Serious question, why would you think they're stupid enough to try and sell another faulty product. They made sales the first time around because of Maddox Games reputation. That isn't going to work again. They have two choices, shut down the development, or fix it. They're smart enough to understand their current number one priority has to be the AI and Commands, or make an MMO that would require less AI code. Personally I believe whatever they do, it will still be a serious simulator. Although I think someone will take the fall for the current state of the sim, probably Luthier, warranted or not. We don't know what went on in the development.

True Chivas, after so long working on CLOD's development, website, forum, release, patches, PR, patches you do wonder about the man who makes the decisions about these things and his level of competence at his job.

So what will they try to sell? I think all bets are off.

I don't think that there are such dire thoughts in the front office, they know that their product will, is going to sell. After all it is a new front, with an audience who hold that theater very close to the heart. Battle of Britain was/is the big looser here, but the show continues. The Clod disappointed (and they should be) will either buy or not, but I don't think 1C on-line is too concerned about them.

Anyone buying the next greatest sim ever on clod engine after clod failure ?

I will buy the successor to CloD if

1.) a real weather system is implemented
2.) the grafics engine improved so that the horrible popping up of buildings is fixed
3.) the GUI gets a complete overhaul (yes, I'm looking at you, armament screen...)
4.) AI is improved to the point where it doesn't completely botch up a mission on a regular basis
5.) the sim ships with decent information/manuals for reach aircraft
6.) at least 2 big historical campaigns complete with squadron management, medals and promotions are included

I'll buy it, it's about half the price of a one night on the town, out with my lady.

I won't touch an MMO flight sim. Zero interest. They can't make one that will be decent on the SP side.

Just look at SW:TOR. EA put more money into it than most films AND their sequels combined, and still people quit in droves because the game was in the end "just another MMORPG" and NOT the KOTOR 3/4/5/ad infinitum w/MP support they said it would be. If EA can't make that work, after the mess that CloD has been what would make anyone believe they could make anything other than "Warbirds or Aces High with CloD engine"? To be clear, there are probably many simmers who would welcome such an MMO.

I am not one of them. I know there are others who feel the same, who bought CloD, but will totally disregard any "sequel" that dumps that SP/MP model for an MMO.



The Jedi Master

If it's a MMO, I have no desire to play "Air Quake" because that's the only way it would be successful, from a market/bottom line view.

[If this is true, that is double reason I will not buy it. [/quote]


+1 Furthermore, after the CLoD debacle, I have no confidence in the devs at all. At the present rate of progress some of us may

well die of old age even if a good sequel is ever made. Note I used the word "good". That means it is not a half-assed disaster like

CLoD was. And this time I wont buy till I see reviews from credible sources. The higher the scores the better. I will look at 4 or 5 reviews and if

they dont average out to at least 8 out of 10, its not even worth my time.

My current car is entirely able to deal with speeds of up to 200 mph and is specifically designed by Porsche to take that into account. Does that mean it will ever actually attain such speeds?

Hey everyone i know we're discussing CLOD but i just want you all to know that i drive a porsche 911.

And i drive a Ford Mondeo with orange go faster stripes and blues and twos on the top...

Sorry! But i can't see the relevance of comparing a car to a PC engine.

Some things never change.

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