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#3683339 - 11/16/12 07:10 PM NDA lifted  
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NDA removed guys. Let the world know what you think.

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#3689010 - 11/27/12 03:35 AM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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LoL! I've been playing and not reading the forums. I didn't know they had lifted it. I love the game. The graphics, sounds and frame rates are unbelievable. I have a 6 year machine and it runs it great. 35-50 FPS with 60 planes with ships, AA and unbelievable lighting and FX. The detail of the planes and terrain are incredible. The planes are a work of art. Down to the rivets, and dents. The game has not been hard core yet, but the did a about a week of nearly full real with locked cockpit and no icons, and it was a blast! The flight models (the completed ones) seem accurate enough, but since I've never flown one, what do I know? This game is still in beta and has several features not even turned on yet. There is a full real button, but it hasn't been added yet. This game with some good historical missions in full real will be an experience to behold IMO. I can't believe that upgrading this old computer is an option with this game. My friends who have 3 year old computers get 200 FPS! With forests and cities and mountains (big mountains), smoke, fires, explosions, flak and 60 planes, you would think it would take any machine to a its knees. But it doesn't. It is an open beta now, so if you like WW2 planes at all, it is worth the 7 gig+ download.

#3689089 - 11/27/12 08:06 AM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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Yup same here, love the game.

Apparently this patch they will add full real battles.

Can't wait for world war and squads.

#3689097 - 11/27/12 08:26 AM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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+1 for me too.
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#3689579 - 11/28/12 05:28 AM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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I liked it for what it was at first but I got bored quickly, the fail states on missions in the "dynamic campaign" are ridiculous, they expect you to gun down 20+ enemy planes with just your squad of 4 people. Kind of stupid and got bored of that. Not really into multiplayer so none of the other stuff interests me especially not the mixing planes from different eras part.

#3689661 - 11/28/12 12:29 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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I can't quite put my finger on why this game left me so cold... There's no denying the thing looks gorgeous and runs like a dream even on my ancient PC - all my ancient kit worked flawlessly, setup was a doddle...

I'll probably give it another go once it's been in the wild for a few months.


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#3689785 - 11/28/12 04:43 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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So disappointed to see what redpiano has written concerning the stupid "fail states" on the dynamic missions.
This is precisely why I deleted Wings of Prey and Wings of the Luftwaffe from my pc.
Do you think they might make this an option of sorts? If not,then no use for me I'm afraid.

#3689802 - 11/28/12 05:00 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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Hoping for an intelligent application of a full mission editor which will allow any type of game you want to play (SP/MP/Coop) in the way you and your friends want to play. The ability to bypass 'the grind' so you can use any airplane/map/equipment with full mission editor generated missions. An exchange/marketplace for user generated missions. A set price for this option, entirely separated from the game's economy system and other gameplay.

I just don't like the MMO thing. Game could/would attract more sim players if above would be implemented.

MAC

#3689814 - 11/28/12 05:17 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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Yes the mission editor and what it will have to offer is HUGE IMO smile

#3689841 - 11/28/12 06:00 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: MACADEMIC]  
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Originally Posted By: MACADEMIC
Hoping for an intelligent application of a full mission editor which will allow any type of game you want to play (SP/MP/Coop) in the way you and your friends want to play. The ability to bypass 'the grind' so you can use any airplane/map/equipment with full mission editor generated missions. An exchange/marketplace for user generated missions. A set price for this option, entirely separated from the game's economy system and other gameplay.

I just don't like the MMO thing. Game could/would attract more sim players if above would be implemented.

MAC



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#3689847 - 11/28/12 06:07 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: Valisk_61]  
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Originally Posted By: Valisk_61

Nail, meet head.


Wow I had to run this one through the decrypter

It's alright. It's me biggrin

#3690098 - 11/29/12 01:35 AM Re: NDA lifted [Re: redpiano]  
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Originally Posted By: redpiano
I liked it for what it was at first but I got bored quickly, the fail states on missions in the "dynamic campaign" are ridiculous, they expect you to gun down 20+ enemy planes with just your squad of 4 people. Kind of stupid and got bored of that. Not really into multiplayer so none of the other stuff interests me especially not the mixing planes from different eras part.


Yes, I agree, there are some very almost intentional flaws. It very much needs a proper mission builder so someone can create some realistic situations as opposed to some arcade impossible and pointless tasks. But, I think (at least really, really hope) that this becomes part of the game. I just can't imagine the developers getting so much of the really hard things right and failing with some of this obvious failings. At least the foundations are there, and they have said they are going to make a real mission editor.

#3690122 - 11/29/12 02:23 AM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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I can only agree with redpiano and MAC. War Thunder has some great content in terms of planes and maps (although small maps), but other than the dogfight furballs which mix planes regardless of era and according to level grinding mechanisms, the gameplay currently doesn't cater at all for the sort of players who like to re enact historical battles. One can only hope that things will change with time, so I allow myself a little bit of hope, but not too much as long as the level grinding system remains at the unavoidable core of the system.

#3690222 - 11/29/12 11:24 AM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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I enjoy it so far because you can just jump in and get pretty much instant action, and that's great when I feel in that kind of mood or don't have alot of time to play.
But the historical side is sorely lacking, and despite how beautiful the game plays and looks it's frustrating to be taking on such a miss match of aircraft.. (and just look at the different scenarios available in the Battle of Britain dynamic campaign, it's shocking).
I find it hard to understand why the developers have chosen to go down the road they have.. They must know that serious WWII aviation enthusiasts look for that historical accuracy and content, unless of course they determined from the start to target another audience?
Like others have been saying, it's still in beta, and there are things we have yet to see. We may be pleasantly suprised in the coming months, and if not, it hasn't cost me anything to play it so far smile

#3690239 - 11/29/12 01:00 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: Craterman]  
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Well said Craterman. The devs must know that they won't reach a large part of the audience if grind is the only option. I suspect there will be an alternative sooner or later (fingers crossed).

MAC

#3690254 - 11/29/12 01:52 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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If devs wouldn't be serious about this, they wouldn't be making FM and DMs for every plane and creating full realistic battles and other simulators modes, these things takes time. War Thunder development started in 2009 and closed beta is running since start of 2012.

If it was for arcade only it would be like Wargaming with Wowp where every plane flies the same and planes have health bars.

#3690264 - 11/29/12 02:21 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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Originally Posted By: JimBobb
If devs wouldn't be serious about this, they wouldn't be making FM and DMs for every plane and creating full realistic battles and other simulators modes, these things takes time. War Thunder development started in 2009 and closed beta is running since start of 2012.

If it was for arcade only it would be like Wargaming with Wowp where every plane flies the same and planes have health bars.


Full realistic battles and other simulator modes are not the same thing I'm talking about, since as of now they are all embedded in the same game mode/economy/grinding system. It has been suggested before that War Thunder doesn't know what it wants to be, it being too much of Arcade to be a sim and too difficult to fly for it becoming an Arcade success. Hopefully this will turn out not to be the case. If graphics/FMs/DMs turn out to be truly good then it would be a waste not allowing their free use with a full mission editor, with a reasonable purchasing option.

MAC

#3690271 - 11/29/12 02:37 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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Time will tell, too many 'ifs' currently.

#3691004 - 11/30/12 09:43 PM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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I've been trying to get into WT single player historical campaigns etc with realistic settings. Is there anyway to substitute the 190 I purchased, into some of the campaigns, as most of the aircraft are biplanes in my version. So far the mission take off, then unwanted instant teleportation to the combat area, and mission "time out" is killing the sim for me.


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#3693251 - 12/05/12 09:29 AM Re: NDA lifted [Re: JimBobb]  
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full real battle test






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