#3688760 - 11/26/12 07:10 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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Myself I never fly for the dark side, so I'm stuck with 23 shades of mud brown. But those bright colors, make excellent targets and they all burn just as well as the next.
That's the most ignorant statement you've made in the whole thread. Anyone who thinks there were good guys and bad guys in WW1 hasn't learned its lesson for mankind.
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#3688776 - 11/26/12 07:31 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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Which then causes me to think just how the heck did a German Aircraft mount a British weapon on it's upper wing ? Anything is possible in a Fable. What did they shoot . . captured ammo ? The Germans were well-known for mounting captured weapons on their aircraft. Including sights... Experimental Lewis mount on Alb D.VIt wasn't common, but it did happen. I'm relieved to hear it wasn't common practice. As loaded magazines for the Lewis Gun might be in short supply. Just as the interrupter gear was introduced on the EIII, the Germans experimented with 3 Spandaus on a fokker. Theory being if the first jammed you went to #2. And if that jammed you still had #3 Guess they had many jams on the EIII What's amazing is how such a primative aircraft ( wing warper No ailerons ) became a front line fighter but that interrupter gear made it a powerful weapon when it wasn't jammed that is. That superiority only lasted about a month, till the first EIII was shot down and copied then both sides used the interrupter gear Admin Edit: Picture removed. Uncleal, if you hadn't guessed by now, you do not own the pictures you are posting. Please re-read the forum use agreement.
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#3688805 - 11/26/12 08:26 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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Myself I never fly for the dark side, so I'm stuck with 23 shades of mud brown. But those bright colors, make excellent targets and they all burn just as well as the next.
That's the most ignorant statement you've made in the whole thread. Anyone who thinks there were good guys and bad guys in WW1 hasn't learned its lesson for mankind. PLEASE spare me the high school talk about ethics Most of the German fighter's were too nose heavy with the inline engine and the twin Spandaus. The only manuverable bird they had was the DR1 and I didn't like the nasty trick it pulled on landing above 35mph, as back flips are not favored by Yours Truly Those wingtip skids were the only way you could safely slow down. If you tried to drag your tail above 35 mph, you never did it again The only good thing about having two guns is with a single short burst you can shoot down most that fly It'll not be spectacular, but he'll not go far carrying all that lead I think we'll all agree that vibration and accuracy don't belong in the same sentence. Normally the aircraft ran smooth as silk. It had to lest it shake it's airframe apart in days. However when it fired it's gun it shook like a Washing Machine on Steroids. Holding that thought only your first few shots were accurate with 2 guns, after that God Knows where they went. Unless you've found a method to get them both to fire at the same instant. I know I can't Also the only way to simulate the vibration felt as the guns fire. Is with a Force Feedback Joystick problem is there ain't many around anymore
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#3688831 - 11/26/12 09:18 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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Actually talking of the interrupter gear on the EIII brought an interesting story to mind
Nobody could fire forward, lest they shot off their own propellor or flew in a Pusher
The are some rather interesting ways they tried to accomplish this. Mounting a Lewis Gun on the upper wing like the Nieuport 11. Or like the Bristol Scout which is one of the flyable OFF aircraft. They mounted a Lewis Gun on the side of the fusilage giving acsess to the pilot, however it was mounted with the barrel on a 20 degree angle, so the bullet just cleared the prop. I was never able to hit anything, other than trees when I tried it. But it existed.
So along comes this French Pilot by the name of Roland Garros, he mounts heavy steel deflector plates on his propeller at the point of bullet impact, then custom alters the power of his ammo so that it's deadly for that first 50 yards, then who cares
So he developed a way of shooting forward thru his propeller, and any bullets that hit the propeller just bounced off. He managed to shoot down 5 two-seaters in 3 days, before he crash landed, without the ability to burn his secret
It was funny to see the germans shooting off their own propellers, as they didn't know about the Hand Loaded Ammo
Also Roland Garros was the first Ace as after 5 victories a newspaper reporter who wrote of his exploits called him an Ace of a pilot. We've all heard the term Ace, now you know how it came about
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#3688879 - 11/26/12 10:51 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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I did a little research prior to being nasty. I'm told by an OFF skinner that the seven dwarfs skin really did exist, and will be a part of WOFF whenever it's finally released
I thought it to be a photoshop special, as the original photo was the only proof offered and we all know the tricks possible with photoshop
[Admin Edit: Pics removed.] How are you sure he was telling the truth? Maybe he's in on it too!
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#3688885 - 11/26/12 11:00 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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Uncleal, original thread was about opinion about a certain time-frame simulations. All I read from you is FUD. Do a little research on that. You know, just before turning nasty.
I find your posts unamusing and uninteresting. You may as well stop posting. But that's only my opinion, of course.
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#3688886 - 11/26/12 11:04 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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I did a little research prior to being nasty. I'm told by an OFF skinner that the seven dwarfs skin really did exist, and will be a part of WOFF whenever it's finally released
I thought it to be a photoshop special, as the original photo was the only proof offered and we all know the tricks possible with photoshop
[Admin Edit: Pics removed.] How are you sure he was telling the truth? Maybe he's in on it too! It's a little thing that is seen all to rarely on the internet these days, called TRUST Or as Ronald Reagan used to say . . "Trust but verify"
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#3688890 - 11/26/12 11:08 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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Uncleal, original thread was about opinion about a certain time-frame simulations. All I read from you is FUD. Do a little research on that. You know, just before turning nasty.
I find your posts unamusing and uninteresting. You may as well stop posting. But that's only my opinion, of course.
Best regards, Me Opinions are like noses Everybody has one How bold of you, to actually share your innermost thoughts on a given subject
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#3688893 - 11/26/12 11:11 PM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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Opinions are like noses
Everybody has one
Gentlemen, Point proven. I rest my case. Thank you all.
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#3688999 - 11/27/12 03:21 AM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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I simply dislike and distrust this kind of business! And yet here the game is after all this time, still being updated regularly with new content. I'd say, then, that this type of business model has worked.
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#3689012 - 11/27/12 03:38 AM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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I'm being extremely serious and another little fact which gets in the way, is the standard aerial Vickers in 7mm. Which in itself shows that the story which it is, was authored by a European who doesn't know his elbow from a hot rock. Wrong. These notes were themselves written by the pilots of the 27th Aero Squadron, aka American pilots. It's no different than referring to 7.92mm as "8mm Mauser." It's just a shorthand convention that American pilots took up. That reference is all over the place in the official records of the American squadrons. This excerpt is from an official US Army publication written shortly after the war: This caused the British to use the Prius Rocket as a source of fire. The Prius was little more than an over grown July 4th firework. Each aircraft was equipped with eight electrically ignited rockets which fired all eight in one shot. Problem was. . you had to get mighty close to the target to score a hit. And you might set your wing man or your self on fire. To say they weren't very accurate is a gross understatement Nobody liked them. Thank God by January 1917 they solved the problem of the incendiary ammo, and the Prius Rocket VANISHED They were called Le Prieur rockets. Or do you not know your elbow from a hot rock? Oh, and Nungesser was quite good with them as well. Apparently he liked them. Which then causes me to think just how the heck did a German Aircraft mount a British weapon on it's upper wing ? Anything is possible in a Fable. What did they shoot . . captured ammo ? (Sigh)
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#3689015 - 11/27/12 03:43 AM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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The reason for his complaint is not the 75 cents. But that viewing window is standard equipement on all Sopwith Camels. Without it that aircraft would never leave the factory Again, wrong. It was a field modification that eventually became a standard fitting. A casual glance through Windsock or even a Google search will show it was not always standard. The more I'm exposed to the finer points of ROF. I'm beginning to realize more and more that it is only a RUSSIAN Wet Dream The more I read your posts, the more I realize you're just one that wants to promote OFF above all else. Oh, and it's published by an American company, so you can drop Russian conspiracy junk.
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#3689020 - 11/27/12 03:50 AM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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In much the same way as the bullschitt of available optional weaponry So, let's see here: -Extra guns for the Dolphin: historical fact -Extra guns for the Nieuport 11 & 17: historical fact -Le Prieur Rockets for the Pup, Spad, and Nieuports: historical fact -Balloon guns for the Spad: historical fact -Davis Gun for the Handley Page: historical fact -Albatros 20mm Becker cannon: historical fact -Overwing captured Lewis gun for the Albatros: historical fact -Overwing Lewis Gun(s) for the F.2B, RE8, DH4, and Breguet 14: historical fact -Twin turret guns for the RE8 and DH4: historical fact Now please, tell me what is BS about all that?
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#3689021 - 11/27/12 03:53 AM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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It's possibly true about my piss poor attitude, to me this is not a business, this is War. And War has the nasty habit of being Harsh I think you need to make an exit at the next offramp and take a drive back to the real world.
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#3689483 - 11/28/12 12:58 AM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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In much the same way as the bullschitt of available optional weaponry So, let's see here: -Extra guns for the Dolphin: historical fact -Extra guns for the Nieuport 11 & 17: historical fact -Le Prieur Rockets for the Pup, Spad, and Nieuports: historical fact -Balloon guns for the Spad: historical fact -Davis Gun for the Handley Page: historical fact -Albatros 20mm Becker cannon: historical fact -Overwing captured Lewis gun for the Albatros: historical fact -Overwing Lewis Gun(s) for the F.2B, RE8, DH4, and Breguet 14: historical fact -Twin turret guns for the RE8 and DH4: historical fact Now please, tell me what is BS about all that? It's a question of numbers, I think. Some of the weapon mods are historically important, others are fanciful, or represent something tried at very low frequency. When I look at flight recordings, nearly every sopwith triplane in multiplayer has twin vickers now. There doesn't seem to be a way for servers or mission makers to control it, so we pimp our aircraft with the best weapon mods available, all of the time. I know it's just my opinion, but to me it doesn't seem like the weapon mods have made RoF closer to WW1...the opposite, in fact. Just imagine if in Il-2 1946 every luftwaffle had got to put a Mk 103 in his Bf 109 because he dug up a photo showing that someone had tried it, once.
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#3689495 - 11/28/12 01:37 AM
Re: Best Current WWI Sim?
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Just imagine if in Il-2 1946 every luftwaffle had got to put a Mk 103 in his Bf 109 because he dug up a photo showing that someone had tried it, once.
But the majority, of players, did in fact equip themselves with the potato gun.
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