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#3627382 - 08/16/12 09:46 AM SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) *****  
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Lets discuss system specific issues here...


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#3641081 - 09/09/12 09:33 AM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Good job for "Dvina"-s:

#3641087 - 09/09/12 09:40 AM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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China?


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#3641089 - 09/09/12 09:45 AM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
China?


Right on the spot... thumbsup
This is a part of Nixon's greeting decoration in Beijin..

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#3641106 - 09/09/12 10:39 AM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
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China?


Right on the spot... thumbsup
This is a part of Nixon's greeting decoration in Beijin..


China only received 5 pieces of SA-75 Dvina "five van" (SA-2A) systems, during 1958-59.
It was the oldest and least advanced version ever produced, much less capable than the SA-75M Dvina "three van/doghouse" (SA-2B/F) depicted in the sim.

Last edited by Hpasp; 09/09/12 10:44 AM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3641110 - 09/09/12 10:45 AM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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#3654791 - 10/02/12 04:26 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3655051 - 10/02/12 10:27 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Question to Hpasp

S-75 "Dvina" in the simulator is a modified version

In Vietnam it was not this particular version

Because this Dvina that the simulator can hit targets up to 100 meters high!

It is also the Dvina can hit targets in Dogon!

The question is at the Dvina in Simulator mode is "Work on K3" Red Lights

For which Targets it is better to use?

I can shoot on this or not?

1. tornado

2. F-111

3. tomahawk

4. A4

#3676705 - 11/06/12 08:55 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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I was wondering, how many vehicles are needed to transfer a "5 van" SA-75?

They should be:

5 for each van; 6 for each launcher; 1 for the spare parts, 6 TZM's maybe... What else?...

#3676731 - 11/06/12 09:18 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
I was wondering, how many vehicles are needed to transfer a "5 van" SA-75?

They should be:

5 for each van; 6 for each launcher; 1 for the spare parts, 6 TZM's maybe... What else?...


1,2 PA – fire control radar, RSNA-75 (Fan Song A) fire control radar. (two trailer one for the cabin, one for the antenna)
3. U – fire control cabin
4. I – indicator cabin
5. K3 – instrument cabin
6. K6 – power distribution cabin
7,8,9. Three K5 – diesel generator (100kW diesel generators)
10...15. Six PU launchers
16..21. Six TZM PR-11 missile transporter - loaders
22,23. P-12 target acquisition radar
24..26. ZSU-23-2 close air defense

... for kitchen, spares, guards, etc.

Last edited by Hpasp; 11/06/12 09:19 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3681766 - 11/14/12 12:25 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Question about U2?

Why are there our Mig and Su, Su also question our flies at an altitude of 20 kilometers too, why he can't shoot down the U2.

It is not clear!

The height of the Su and the U2 20 km the same too.

#3681812 - 11/14/12 01:53 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Read some historical literature thumbsup
You would know that Su-9 was unarmed transport flight which was accidentally in the vicinity of the incident and he was ordered to take crash course with U-2, but was withdrawn before SAM came to the game.

#3681972 - 11/14/12 05:52 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Actually no one knows exactly shot down a U2 rocket or aircraft, those nobody alive.

Who can accurately say shot down by a missile or aircraft.

Who's 100% knows.

#3681983 - 11/14/12 06:13 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: max2012]  
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Originally Posted By: max2012

...Who can accurately say shot down by a missile or aircraft.
Who's 100% knows.


Powers himself... He said that there was an explosion and aircraft was shattered... Su-9 was not armed...

#3681985 - 11/14/12 06:17 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: max2012]  
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Originally Posted By: max2012

Actually no one knows exactly shot down a U2 rocket or aircraft, those nobody alive.

Who can accurately say shot down by a missile or aircraft.

Who's 100% knows.



Still there are some guys out, who were there and done that as FCO's...
... the situation in the SIM was designed after their memoirs.
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3681994 - 11/14/12 06:23 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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And the pilot of the Su-9 was asked or not?

There is then a secret was soon!

#3681996 - 11/14/12 06:25 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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If so, then of course I agree, can't all hide.

#3681997 - 11/14/12 06:27 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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We assume that a missile shot down a U2.

That is true at 100% it was.

#3682002 - 11/14/12 06:34 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: max2012]  
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Originally Posted By: max2012

We assume that a missile shot down a U2.

That is true at 100% it was.


Problem with that situation was the two MiG that was also shot by command of stupid ground control, and that several SAM batteries turned to be NOT battle ready.
Some had malfunctioning missiles loaded on the launchers, some had only one worked, etc...
... this was the reason, that this accident was not celebrated in details.


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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3682007 - 11/14/12 06:41 PM Re: SA-75M Dvina (SA-2F Guideline) [Re: Hpasp]  
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IE nothing knows exactly what there actually was.

Okay believe it was shot down by a missile, the U2 and all.

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